RE: Apology (Re: [ga-roots] Re: Criminalization of alt roots)

["Gene Marsh" <marshm@anycast.net>]

Thank you, Harald.

I would also agree that *just* being in an alt.root should not confer
inclusion in the ICANN root.  However, an operational, proven TLD in an
alt.root should certainly be considered.  There are several (if not many)
TLDs that meet this criteria.

Gene...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga-roots@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-roots@dnso.org]On Behalf
> Of Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 3:12 PM
> To: Simon Higgs
> Cc: ga-roots@dnso.org
> Subject: Apology (Re: [ga-roots] Re: Criminalization of alt roots)
>
>
> At 14:25 04.05.2001 -0700, Simon Higgs wrote:
> >At 01:29 PM 5/4/01 +0200, you wrote:
> >>At 13:07 03.05.2001 -0700, Simon Higgs wrote:
> >>>The very first alt.root was used as the test bed for Draft Postel. You
> >>>can't kill off something that has a right to be there - and numerous
> >>>TLDs still around have Jon Postel/IANA's permission to be in an
> >>>alt.root. IANA even provided wording for registries in an alt.root to
> >>>use as a waiver of legal liability.
> >>
> >>just in case anyone does not remember:
> >>
> >>Simon Higgs has argued this point of view before an US court and lost.
> >
> >Huh? Just in case anyone does not remember the court case, *THERE WAS NO
> >COURT CASE*. I have never had the opportunity to testify. Show me my
> >testimony! Show me the court case!
> >
> >Damn it, Harald. I *NEVER* thought you would stoop as low as Crocker and
> >Crispin. But you just did.
> >
> >An apology is in order.
>
> Apologies, I was in error.
>
> I thought that you had worked together with IODesign and Chris Ambler in
> the case brought by IODesign about .web where injunctive relief
> was denied,
> but it appears that this is not the case.
>
> My comment should have read "The viewpoint that .web has a right to be in
> the root has been argued before an US court and dismissed".
>
> My comment is based on http://www.brandenburg.com/misc/iodesign-judge.html
>
> On rereading Simon Higgs' statement again, I see that he did not
> even make
> that statement this time; he was talking about the right to be in an
> "alt.root", something I have not seen a possible legal basis, or even a
> reason, for denying.
>
> However, I do not accept the premise that because it is legal to build an
> alt.root, being in an alt.root gives any right to be in the ICANN
> DNS root.
>
>                  Harald
>
>
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