Re: [ga-roots] Community Roots or Red Herrings)

["NameCritic" <watch-dog@inreach.com>]

To: Dassa

You said "Any roots aside from the legacy root under the control of ICANN
are rogue and not legitimate on the Internet.  They are private name spaces
and belong on private networks, not in the public network and name space."

According to who? What authority says this? Why are they the authority? Why
should we bow to this authority? Are you it? Is ICANN? The DoC? Just curious
since you seem to state it as if it were a law that was punishable by prison
time or something.

What people want is change. One way or another when people want change they
will get it. Check out the history books.

Whatever you perceive are the rules is irrelevant to what is being discussed
since you obviously have a problem with thinking there could be any other
way or better way to do things.

Everyone assumes people do not have the right to do something until someone
says they can. Not so. People have the right to do anything they please
until a law is passed against it.

Right now I don't know of a single law that applies to everyone in the world
and not one that would keep them from operating another root. If you do know
of one, please post a link to it so I can read about it.



Chris McElroy aka NameCritic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dassa" <dassa@dhs.org>
To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "[ga-roots]" <ga-roots@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ga-roots] Community Roots or Red Herrings)


> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> |> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 1:30 PM
> |> To: dassa@dhs.org
> |> Cc: [ga-roots]
> |> Subject: Re: [ga-roots] Community Roots or Red Herrings)
>
> |> > No, ICANN has not created any colliders.  The private roots have put
> |> > private domain spaces up into the routable Internet address space
when
> they
> |> > shouldn't have.
> |>
> |>   Unfortunately your contention here is incorrect.  But than again most
> of
> |> us that have been around for awhile and have read your nonsense are
> |> quite use to this as a norm for you.
>
> Can't attack the content so attack the person eh Jeff?
>
> |> >  They are not alternative roots and continueing to call
> |> > them such is conveying a degree of legitimacy to what they are doing.
> |>
> |>   Yes they are not Aternitive Roots, but "Competitive Roots" or
> |> "Inclusive Root structures".
>
> No, they are not competitive or inclusive, if anything, they are rogue.
>
> |> > The private roots are the ones causing problems as they are using IP
> addresses
> |> > outside of the ranges set aside for the private networks (name
> spaces).
> |>
> |>   That is because they are not private networks, but public ones...
> |>   I believe that RFC 1918 clearly outlines the definition clearly...
> |> Your interpretation not withstanding, as usual...
>
> RFC 1918 defines the IP ranges to be used for private networks and
> allocated by the relevant body.  The name space for the Internet also has
a
> relevant body, any name space that is outside the legacy root name space
is
> a private name space and as such belongs as a private network and not on
> the Internet.  The Internet DNS system was designed to have a unique root
> zone, if you do not believe that to be the case I suggest you reread the
> applicable RFC's and history.  People may like to change that and have
> numerous root zones but it currently isn't the case.  Any roots aside from
> the legacy root under the control of ICANN are rogue and not legitimate on
> the Internet.  They are private name spaces and belong on private
networks,
> not in the public network and name space.
>
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.
>
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