[ga-rules] Re: [ga] MOTION FOR RULES ON MOTIONS (popular)

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

With all due humility and apologies and you all know I have none.

I withdraw my motion and fully support our chair in his mission to bring proper
focus to how we can best present ourselves to help internestakeholders at
Stockholm.  My timing was poor but remember timing is always poor until we need
the rules.

Sincerely,

"babybows.com" wrote:

> Eric,
>
> One week from now many of us (including yourself) will be in transit to
> Stockholm.  We can certainly consider this immediately after the Stockholm
> session.  I have no objection to the formulation of proper rules on motions;
> I support your initiative, just not the timing.
>
> Best regards,
> Danny
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Eric Dierker
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 3:07 PM
> To: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: [ga] MOTION FOR RULES ON MOTIONS (popular)
>
>  The following has been sitting for public comment on the rules/int list
> since the sixth of May. The full text may obviously be viewed there
> along with the huge amount of public comment on it, which is too long to
> list here, as there clearly is not enough band width to carry it all. I
> believe the author and I both support the motion. I call for the vote to
> be in one week as per 3 A
>
>        > Suggestion for a rules line:
>
>        > 1 A Popular Motion is a text to be balloted by the DNSO GA that
> is supported
>        >    by at least 5% of the GA Voters, or 15 people, whichever is
> the smaller.
>
>        > 2 A Popular Motion shall be presented in the form of a message
> to the GA
>        >    list carrying the complete text of the Motion, the names of
> the supporting
>        >    GA members, and a request for the Motion to be balloted.
>
>        > 3 A Popular Motion shall be put to a vote within a week of its
>        >    presentation to the General Assembly, unless conditions
> below happen.
>
>        > 4 Putting a Popular Motion to the vote may be delayed until a
> week after
>        >    the end of the vote on another Popular Motion.
>
>        > 5 A Popular Motion may be removed before balloting in the case
> of:
>        >    A - The declaration of at least 2 of the listed Supporters
> that they do not
>        >    support the Popular Motion
>        >    B - A Popular Motion with a greater number of supporters,
> asking that the
>        >    first Popular Motion be dismissed. Neither will then be put
> to a vote.
>
>        > Discussion:
>
>        > - Rule 1 should be easy. The numbers are rather arbitrary.
>        > - Rule 2 is intended to avoid someone claiming "popular motion"
> based on a
>        >    series of "me too" messages. He actually has to list the
> names (and under
>        >    rule 5 A, give those names the right to kill the notion).
>        > - Rule 3 should allow the secretariat enough time to do the
> preparations.
>        > - Rule 4 is intended to avoid exhaustion by a group of 15
> people proposing
>        >    tens of motions at the same time.
>        > - Rule 5 A is intended to allow supporters to kill a motion if
> they decide
>        >    it's better not to do it after all.
>        > - Rule 5 B is intended to allow a deeply divided GA (if it
> occurs) to avoid
>        >    a situation where 2-3 groups spit motions at each other
> continuously,
>        >    none of which have a chance of passing.
>
> I can not figure out if I need to get 15 people to propose this motion
> which will require us to get 15 people in the future.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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