Re: [ga-rules] Proposal for a Buddy Sytem for new members

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Darryl and all,

  I agree with Darryl (Aka Dessa) that a "Buddy system" for new members
is not likely to work on the DNSO GA or within the DNSO on any sub-list
for that matter.  But I disagree with the reasons the Darryl gives to support
his conclusion.

  The GA is a "General Assembly", as such it is open, or should be open to
any and all interested Parties as is outlined in the White Paper and MoU
for interaction, debate, and discourse on the various forums that the DNSO
GA no has.  Given that, it seems reasonable and logical that some new
participants or interested parties, may or may not have a specific or
definable reasonable level of understanding.  In addition part of what
the DNSO GA is all about in learning from each other, not presupposing
a particular level of competency in any single area of expertise.  To
presuppose
any level of competency in DNSO related issues would in effect be
engaging in SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP.  That is fundamentally WRONG,
and should not be encouraged at any level or by anyone....

Dassa wrote:

> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: owner-ga-rules@dnso.org On Behalf Of Joanna Lane
> |> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:41 AM
> |> To: Eric Dierker; [ga-rules]
> |> Subject: [ga-rules] Proposal for a Buddy Sytem for new members
> |>
> |>
> |> Eric et al,
> |>
> |> As Dassa has said, all societies have rules. You just cannot
> |> let the crazies go round murdering and thieving. The problem is that our
> rules
> |> are made to  be applied even handedly across the board, but we are all
> |> individuals and not only must the punishment fit the crime, it must fit
> the offender.
> |>
> |> We are naive to think our rules can be anything other than unfair. To be
> |> fair, we must have all the same components of a real life  justice
> system in
> |> coping with all situations. The answer is not simply to create more
> rules,
> |> or to abolish them altogether.
> |>
> |> Personally, I am more interested in prevention rather than cure. If the
> |> minimum standards of decorum are abused, I just ignore it, or use the
> |> filter, but the gut reaction of many, particularly new colleagues, is to
> |> leave. I would like to see steps taken to foster good relationships with
> new
> |> members and the following is one proven way of assisting that process.
> |>
> |> The one system I do think works well in real life groups in our
> |> society is the Buddy System,
>
> Hello Joanna
>
> I have used the buddy/mentor system myself and continue to use it certain
> situations.  In some situations it works well.  In the GA I can see some
> potential problems.  One of the largest is that those who have the most to
> contribute have the least time to devote to such auxicillary pasttimes.
> Hence the quality of any such mentoring will be depreciated.  Also, the
> basic aim of the of the GA is to bring together people who already have
> experience and the knowledge on the subject matter to hand, they should not
> need the type of hand holding you are proposing.  The system you are
> putting forward would have merit in the AtLarge where experience and
> expertise is not a requirement but introducing it here is to lower the
> professional standing of this body.  In my mind, the requirements for entry
> into this body should be enforced to the degree that if someone posts
> consistently with no content of a substantial nature, their posting rights
> should be withdrawn.  Instead of lowering the barrier, I believe we should
> be raising it.
>
> Darryl (Dassa) Lynch.
>
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