Re: [ga-rules] Path of Practical Utility

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Patrick and all,

  You already have my view.  Review the archives for this forum should
you need a refresher...

Patrick Corliss wrote:

> Hi Eric
>
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 17:43:16 -0700, you wrote:
> > May I suggest you lay out your plan for the general public of
> > the GA and see if it obtains support.  Lay it out here or in systems
> > and let us make it a procedure if it obtains popular support. I like the
> > lists with a few minor tweaking adjustments and I think they will obtain
> > support.
>
> To some extent, William Walsh is correct when he says that the sublists lack
> legitimacy.  However, the Chair was elected by the Assembly and should not
> need to refer every administrative decision back to the GA for approval.  As
> William also suggests, that causes paralysis.
>
> In between there is a path of practical utility.
>
> The plan is quite simple.  The main GA list is overwhelmed with attack and
> division.  It also gets diverted by people talking about the procedures
> instead of substantive issues.  Some people want the GA to fail and have
> said so publicly.  My view is that the GA is dysfunctional and we need to
> achieve some constructive outcomes.
>
> (1)    At present the [ga] list is overwhelmed with debate.  Much of it is
> flaming.  New subscribers lose interest and the numbers are falling all the
> time.  With separate lists, subscribers can select their own topics on
> interest.   Those interested in the UDRP can subscribe to it only.  That way
> there is a concise list suited to their personal interests.  Believe me when
> I say that not everybody is subscribed to all lists.  People can pick and
> choose -- and they do exactly that.
>
> (2)    The [ga-roots] mailing list is absolutely essential because the
> issues are very contentious but they are NOT mainstream issues.
>
> Thus the arguments will rage on.  It's much better for all those interested
> in roots to go away and play in their own sandpit.  They can argue all they
> like and maybe they will come up with some policy proposals.  In fact,
> Harald and I nearly achieved opposing motions.
>
> (3)    Early last year the mailing list was wrecked for months with debate
> on the *rules*.  I unsubscribed at the time because of the debate.  The
> whole list was diverted for months.  My idea is simple enough.  The present
> rules are unlikely to get revised easily but people will surely try.  When
> that occurs, we should send them away to [ga-rules].
>
> (4)    There is a real possibility that we can generate *virtual* lists for
> the various constituencies.  My idea was to try that out.  Let's say we
> scrapped the [ga] list so that everyone could only post to a sublist.  But
> that all postings were then forwarded to [ga-full].  The effect would be
> that subscribers to [ga-full] would get the whole debate but each list would
> be standalone.  The result would be instant *virtual* constituencies.
>
> The creation of special purpose lists is a good idea.  I think they could
> succeed and there is evidence from their actual usage.  However, there are
> too many and this causes concern.  Of course, they cannot work if they are
> sabotaged by the few who oppose them.
>
> The special purpose lists are here now.  People are using them.  We need to
> make them work or scrap the idea.  Eliminating a few would help.
>
> That's my view.  What do you think?
>
> Best regards
> Patrick Corliss
>
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