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Re: Re[2]: [ga-rules] Path of Practical Utility



Chris McElroy aka NameCritic

----- Original Message -----
From: "William X. Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com>
To: "Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>
Cc: "[ga-rules]" <ga-rules@dnso.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [ga-rules] Path of Practical Utility


> Hello Patrick,
>
> Thursday, July 05, 2001, 11:22:37 PM, Patrick Corliss wrote:
> > The [ga] lists are as follows:
> >     ga
> >     ga-abuse
> >     ga-digest
> >     ga-full
> > Also "announce" and "voters".

Hey your list is shorter than Patrick's List. Ahh it's ok WXW, they say List
size doesn't matter so don't let it get you down.

>
> Let's get real here.
>
> The ga ga-digest and ga-full lists are ONE list, with different
> delivery instructions only.

You know, I for one really appreciate the educational value of your posts
WXW.

>
> ga-abuse is NOT a GA list, it is something you people created for
> yourself, rather than just making ga-abuse@ a ticketing system and
> letting individual moderator(s) deal with complaints as they come in
> on their own initiative.

"You people" Are you saying there is you, then there is the rest of the GA
called "You people"? Just asking for clarification of why you feel this
seperation thing.

>
> Don't expect any sympathy there.
>
> So stop trying to make it look like there are more "real lists" then
> there are by manipulating the list in this fashion.

Explain "Real List" please. Is that not one that you can post to and read
the responses from? Or is there another definition I'm not aware of? Is that
like .biz was a real TLD and ICANN's .biz is a duplicate? Or like .com net
and org are real tlds and the rest are not necessary? Just trying to
establish what constitutes a "Real List" in this context through analogy.

>
> >> Keep them for all I care.  But don't try and force people to use them,
> >> or to force issues off the main list that GA participants decide to
> >> raise there, regardless of your little pet sub lists.
>
> > This rhetoric is not addressing the issues but is a reference to me
> > personally.
>
> No, it is certainly addressing the issues.  The issues are that since
> the sublists were created, you have engaged in a systematic campaign
> to bully and harass those who do not restrict their posts to one of
> your personal pet "sub lists" for that subject.

You mean when you said Patrick was "Forcing" you and that the lists were his
"Pet" Lists that it wasn't personal? Is Patrick bullying you? Harassing you?
Forcing you? Wow those sound really serious WXW. Do you have a big brother?
Anyone to protect you from such bullies? If not WXW may I volunteer to keep
the big bad bully Patrick from harassing and forcing and bullying you? Just
trying to help.

>
> In my opinion, you have grossly abused your position by doing this,
> and engaged in more personal baseless attacks in so doing than any
> member of the GA ever has.

You mean . . . besides . . . You?

>
> > As you would like it clarified, I advise that the list monitors current
> > definition of "personal attacks, insult and slander" includes any
derogatory
> > references to a person's characteristics and motivations.  That includes
> > taunting and baiting.
>
> Fortunately the list monitors don't seem to agree with you.  Or is it
> that the current rules you and Danny have forced them to operate under
> paralyze them and make them unable to enforce anything but the most
> gross offenses?

The list monitors are being forced too? Oh My Gawd. This is serious.

>
> I suggest to you that trying to expand the definition of personal
> attack to include anyone who questions the integrity or motives of the
> GA elected officials is a manipulation that should result in your
> resignation.  Those are most certainly relevant questions that are
> NEVER offtopic.

NEVER? I seem to remember many times where you have threatened to post
complaints about me to the ga-abuse list even when it wasn't a personal
attack on you WXW. You are the only one who has threatened me with doing so.
reminds me of the kid back in school that always said "I'm telling!" You do
it all the time. So is this the mainipulation you refer to?

>
> You seem to have a problem properly handling the backlash that your
> actions as Alt-Chair have brought onto you.  Perhaps you should ask
> yourself if you are really sure you should be continuing in this
> position.  I tend to agree with Thomas' evaluation, that your
> resignation is in order.

I agree dealing with your abusive behaviour would make most people resign
the position and I respect the fact Patrick is not that weak and has
remained. Your constant attacks on him are not welcome by most members here.
Yes WXW most. Like to take a vote to see if the majority of the members here
would call for you to be banned for abusive behaviour? Like to take a poll
to see how many members consider your posts not only abusive but detrimental
to the objectives of the GA and nonproductive in general? I doubt you would
wish to see such a poll taken. Let's just say this, if you and Patrick were
both running for his position you would be embarrassed by the numbers.


Might want to take note that because you and Thomas want something, doesn't
make it something that is going to happen and it doesn't even make many take
it seriously.

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic

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