Re: [ga-rules] Assembly Voting on Suspensions

["Patrick Corliss" <patrick@quad.net.au>]

Hi Chris

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 11:31:32 -0700, Chris McElroy aka NameCritic wrote:
> What I am trying to point out is what happens when someone posts their
> opinion and it is a very unpopular opinion and the person saying it is
> unpopular as well. Does that give the person less right to voice their
> opinion. No IMO. A vote therefore would not be the way to go IMO. A very
> popular person would most likely always get the minimum suspension and an
> unpopular one would get the max. Not a fair system.

Agreed.  It was suggested more to give "legitimacy" to the decision.  Some
have argued that reliance on a single list monitor is unfair because he or
she is inherently subjective.  Others have said that there is no provision
for more than one list monitor.

The rules must allow some flexibility as the GA is always getting bogged
down in debate about rules and protocols.  Even the DNSO Secretariat refuses
to change the list settings without a majority vote from the whole General
Assembly.

Personally, I'd rather just have one person as list monitor.  In the members
are very outraged about a decision, they can coalesce into a motion and a
vote to overturn the decision.

> Try this approach. Maintain your committee or panel. Let the committee or
> panel review reports of abuse by Moderators only. Moderators make their
> own decisions and the decision sticks unless appealed by the individual
> being banned to the panel of moderators who can overturn one moderators
> decision.  If all the Moderators police themselves the system works fine
> IMO and it give an individual the right to be heard and possibly have
their
> posting rights reinstated. It also expedites decisions as they are made by
a
> single Moderator with no panel discussion.

The point's moot at the moment as they are only two list monitors -- not a
committee of three.  Perhaps the Chair will leave that alone for a while.

So the first (M1) says "this is what I think".  The second (M2) agrees or
not.  Which view should prevail M1 or M2?

At the moment M1 picks it up first.  If one has a veto then a system of
allocating cases has to be devised.  It's agreeing on fair procedures that
takes the most time.

Best regards
Patrick Corliss


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