RE: [ga-sys] Registrants Charter - FREEDOMS - Part 1

[Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

Hello Joanna,

The problem (and I'm not that far from WXW here) is that the contact
information is required for problem solving, contacting NOCs, etc. No, it
was never designed for individual use and makes inadequate privacy
protections. On that, I agree. However, the new EU privacy protections would
allow many to remove ALL contact information. This is also non-acceptable.
Yes, there WAS no provision for individual anonymity UNTIL the advent of the
ROLE account. So, now we have role accounts and individuals, entering
personal contact data into the whois, either explicitly know what they're
doing or have bad advice.

The ONLY remaining glitch is the registrant data. As I explained to Chris
Ambler, years ago, this is simply taken care of by the paid usage of a PO
box, or MBE account (of which, I have a few, for this purpose).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:15 PM
> To: William X. Walsh
> Cc: ga-sys@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga-sys] Registrants Charter - FREEDOMS - Part 1
> 
> 
> on 5/15/01 4:05 PM, William X. Walsh at 
> william@userfriendly.com wrote:
> 
> Hello William,
> 
> >> This document draws attention to one significant 
> discrepancy between
> >> ICANN-adopted policy, and the European Commission-adopted 
> policy with regard
> >> to Registrar-Registrant Agreements.
> > 
> >> Freedoms granted December 2000 require that all EU 
> citizens of the 15 member
> >> nations who chose to register Second Level Domain Names as 
> individuals shall
> >> have the right to opt out of the WHOIS database altogether.
> > 
> > Bad plan.
> 
> It's not a plan, it's a situation. Under The Charter of the 
> European Union
> everyone has the right to the protection of personal data 
> concerning him or
> her. This law did not exist when current Registry-Registrar 
> Agreements were
> signed, but now it does. Sure, let's recommend that ICANN 
> ignores the merits
> of a possible class action suit brought before the European 
> Court of Human
> Rights by the citizens of 15 nations within its jurisdiction. Bad risk
> management IMO.
> 
>  
> > The whois database is an essential publicly available record,
> 
> What is the specific purpose of treating an individual's 
> personal data as a
> public record, and for whose benefit exactly?
> 
> and
> > there should be no opt out options for registered domain names.
> 
> You can say what you like, but I now have the freedom to opt 
> out of the
> WHOIS public record and you do not, sorry, but that's just 
> the way it is.
> 
> Regards,
> Joanna
> 
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