Re: [ga] Santiago DNSO GA Chair - Generalisimo Sola has spoken!

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Generalisimo Sola and all,

Javier SOLA wrote:

> At 19:49 2/08/99 +0100, Dennis Jennings wrote:
>
> >I found the following in the Bylaws.  If it's not clear in the Bylaws
> >that the Names Council should consult the DNSO General
> >Assembly when electing the Chair of the General Assembly - then I
>
> You seem to have missed the bit where it says that the NC will elect the
> chair of the DNSO.

  I don't believe that Dennis missed that point at all.  YOU seems to
miss the point that first, the :NC" doesn't exist yet, second that the
pNC does not have the right to elect anyone to anything or appoint
anyone to anything either, generalisimo...

>
>
> >will indeed make request to the ICANN Board that the Bylaws be changed.
>
> Feel free. You have all the right to demand anything you want from the
> ICANN Board, including changes in the consensus DNSO bylaws.

  What consensus is that Generalisimo?  How was that consensus
determined?  By vote?  Whom voted?  Where are the election results?

>
>
> In case you have missed it, the paragraph you just quoted says that the NC
> will designate drafting committees, working groups, etc... one more job
> that you seem to want to load on your own shoulders.

  And that the "NC" doesn't exist as of yet as it has not been elected shows
that you Generealisimo, don't have a clue as to what you are talking about!

>
>
> Please show some respect for the bylaws and the consensus that they
> represent. They are the working tool that we have now. It has taken a very
> long time to reach this agreement. It is very bad policy to start playing
> with them for the benefit of a specific group, you might get the other
> groups that have reached consensus on the bylaws very annoyed.
>
> Javier
>
> >
> >Dennis
> >---------
> >Section 2:  THE NAMES COUNCIL
> >
> >(b)  The NC is responsible for the management of the consensus
> >building process of the DNSO.  It shall adopt such procedures and
> >policies as it sees fit to carry out that responsibility, including the
> >designation of such research or drafting committees, working
> >groups and other bodies of the GA as it determines are appropriate
> >to carry out the substantive work of the DNSO.  Such bodies shall
> >include at least one representative nominated by each recognized
> >Constituency, and shall provide appropriate means, as determined
> >by the NC, for input and such participation as is practicable under
> >the circumstances by other interested parties.  Any reports or
> >recommendations presented to the NC by such bodies shall be
> >posted on a web site accessible by the public for public review and
> >comment; absent clear justification, which shall be publicly stated
> >at the time of any action, the NC shall not act on any report or
> >recommendation until a reasonable time for public comment has
> >passed and the NC has reviewed and evaluated all public
> >comments received. The NC is responsible for ensuring that all
> >responsible views have been heard and considered prior to a
> >decision by the NC.
> >
> >> Dennis,
> >>
> >> I would advice that you read the bylaws. The NC is mandated to elect the
> >> Chair of the DNSO, not the ccTLDs.
> >>
> >> As you well try to deform, we have not *proposed* anybody as Chair of the
> >> DNSO. Following the mandate of the ICANN bylaws, be have *elected* a Chair
> >> for the meeting. If you have any complaints, please address them to ICANN,
> >> asking them to change  the bylaws, instead of trying to destroy the work
> >> that others have been doing organizing the Santiago meeting while you just
> >> sat back. Your ambitions are not above the bylaws.
> >>
> >> Again, the choice of Nii Quaynor did not encounter in the Names Council the
> >> oposition of the Director of CENTR, the organization of which you are
> >> president. You should coordinate internally, instead of advocating a
> >> violation of the bylaws.
> >>
> >> Javier
> >>
> >> At 22:05 29/07/99 +0100, Dennis Jennings wrote:
> >> >Javier,
> >> >
> >> >I think the proposal by the Interim Names Council to have Nii
> >> >Quaynor chair the DNSO General Assembly in Santiago is an
> >> >excellent one.
> >> >
> >> >However, I do take the view that the General Assembly should be
> >> >consulted in this matter.
> >> >
> >> >Dennis
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> By the way. It was also decided some time ago that the Chairman of this
> >> >> particular Assembly will be Nii Quaynor (the third ccTLD representative,
> >> >> together with Bill and Fay). Not Fay nor Bill complained about this
> >> >> decisions. Please make sure that you coordinate with your
> representatives.
> >> >>
> >> >> Javier
> >> >>
> >> >-------------------------------------------------------
> >> >Dennis M. Jennings
> >> >Director, Computing Services, University College Dublin.
> >> >Address:  Daedalus Building, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland
> >> >E-mail:  Dennis.Jennings@ucd.ie
> >> >Telephone:  +353-(1) 706 7817
> >> >Fax:        +353-(1) 706 2362
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------
> >Dennis M. Jennings
> >Director, Computing Services, University College Dublin.
> >Address:  Daedalus Building, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland
> >E-mail:  Dennis.Jennings@ucd.ie
> >Telephone:  +353-(1) 706 7817
> >Fax:        +353-(1) 706 2362
> >

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