Re: [ga] Time to put Baptista online Joe Baptista's CENSORSHIPProtest post response...

[Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>]

This is Joe Baptista posing as Joop the Poop.

Joop - you points are well taken, and i have no doubt well meaning.
However the foundation you are working from is faulty.

The GA - or General Assembly is nothing more nor less then a general
audience for the DNSO NC puppet gallery, who operate as obedient dogs to
ICANN which is an IBM wet dream.

As the general audience here our only purpose is to masturbate ibm's dick.
However I for one refuse to do that and the penalty is censorship.

Regards
Joe Baptista

On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Joop Teernstra wrote:

> At 13:31 31/12/99 -0600, Weisberg wrote:
> >Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> I agree that we should have a moderated list.
> >> The problem is the definition of a fair set of rules.
> >
> >What activities do we need to protect against and what rules are capable of
> >addressing those specific problems?
> > 
> 
> If the GA could define its purpose, then list rules should be confined to
> combating postings that are clearly in conflict with that purpose.
> 
> As I see one of the purposes of the GA list to be a democratic discussion
> forum where different (and opposing) viewpoints can meet, it must deal with
> "order" the way a parliament deals with "order".
> Honest debate must be encouraged.
> 
> Sustained and unapologetic personal attacks have the net effect of
> silencing (censoring) the victims.  In a forum of volunteers,
> professionals who are paid to be there are less prone to be censored by ad
> hominem attacks than volunteers who generally tend to give up and leave.
> 
> Good luck to the Chair and to you all with this problem in the New Year.
> 
> Eric's second question is even tougher. To draw up rules of civil
> list-behaviour is easy enough.  When and how to enforce them is a judgement
> call , that in a democratic set-up should always be backed by the majority
> of the list participants.
> The only way to do this is by a vote.
> This way, the offender does not feel "censored" by a Chair or a high-handed
> "moderator", but knows that his very audience has had enough.
> 
> 
> --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--  , bootstrap  of
> the Cyberspace Association,
> the constituency for Individual Domain Name Owners
> http://www.idno.org  (or direct:) 
> http://www.democracy.org.nz/idno/
> 
>