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Kooks and thugs? Was:Re: [ga] Message too long (>40000 chars)
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- Subject: Kooks and thugs? Was:Re: [ga] Message too long (>40000 chars)
- From: James Touton <jim.touton@netzero.net>
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:06:20 -0800
- CC: Becky Burr <bburr@ntia.doc.gov>, commerce <commerce@mail.house.gov>, Andrew Pincus <APincus@doc.gov>, Elloit Maxwell <emaxwell@doc.gov>, Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>, Eric Menge <Eric.Menge@sba.gov>, james tierney <james.tierney@usdoj.gov>, Larry Irving <lirving@ntia.doc.gov>, "Louis L. Touton" <Louis_L._Touton@jonesday.com>, "vinton g. cerf - ISOC" <vcerf@MCI.NET>
- Organization: INEGroup Legal advisory and policy council
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Karl and all DNSO'ers,
Thank you for this rendition and very good evaluation of Kents (Thug?)
apparent rant. Not unusual for him of course from what I have read.
Indeed it is amazing to see such silliness from someone on this or
any forum discussing these issues.
Karl Auerbach wrote:
> > So we are not chosing between "moderation" and "no moderation". We are
> > instead chosing between "conscious visible accountable moderation by
> > good guys" vs "stochastic malicious moderation by bad guys". As things
> > currently stand, the "bad guys" are filtering "good guys" off the list.
>
> Nonesense. You are asserting that your sargeants can muzzle those who say
> things you don't like to hear.
>
> You have the power to cover your own ears.
>
> > This is acceptable to you, Karl, and others, but it is not acceptable
> > for ICANN. It contradicts the very openness of which you are so fond.
>
> You sounds like Kafka - white is black, up is down, censorship is free
> speech. Next you will be saying "We had to kill the mail list in order
> to save it."
>
> By-the-way, I object to your technique of asserting that you know what is
> and what is not acceptable to me.
>
> > It discriminates in favor of those who have been on the net for a long
> > time, who are familiar with email filters and other things. It
> > discriminates in favor of those who have a high tolerance for verbal
> > abuse. It discriminates in favor of those who don't care what they do or
> > say. It discriminates in favor of those who speak thoughtlessly.
>
> If anyone out there needs help setting up their e-mail filters, they are
> free to ask for help, and I'm sure it will be provided.
>
> As for tolerance of abuse, I have a low tolerance for those people who
> insist on silencing others because it musses up their Martha Stewart
> lives.
>
> ICANN can not afford to further distance itself from those who are
> affected by the Internet.
>
> > Our resident kooks and thugs
>
> If you have a list of these, then you are free to establish your own
> filters. Do us the courtesy of letting the rest of us chose who we
> believe are, or who are not, "kooks and thugs".
>
> --karl--
James Touton
Legal and Policy Advisory Council,
INEGRoup (Stakeholder)
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