Re: [ga] Reasonable steps.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Marilyn and all,

  I don't agree.  No one should be removed for any reason unless a court
order is issued that clearly states this is the proper action to take.  There
is no one here with that sort of authority or even the ability to exercise such
authority legitimately or reasonable that I have seen.

CENSORSHIP IN ANY OF ITS FORMS IS WRONG!

Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:

> Harald's recommendations seem reasonable to me; especially since one removal
> is temporary and one, which is more serious, and would require
> documentation/series of incidents, permanent.
>
> Harald, I am confident from reading your emails that you agree that
> "documentation/series of incidents" is necessary to move to that step. You
> don't need to restate it for me, but if others want to see you clarify, they
> can ask for that. Marilyn Cade
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 8:05 PM
> To: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] Message from the Chair
>
> Harald and all,
>
>   Both of the "Rules" You mention seem very vague or not well
> defined.  Could you define them specifically and definitively Harald?
> In principal I agree with them both.  But definitive definitions are
> necessary,
>
> most especially with the second one.
>
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
> > At 09:41 26.01.00 -0500, Alex Kamantauskas wrote:
> >
> > >  Or because there position differs from that of the SAA?  I would like
> > >  some form of guarantee that *only* the disruptors are removed...
> >
> > Alex,
> > the rules I proposed mention only two reasons for being removed:
> >
> > - Failure to behave (some examples of which are mentioned)
> >    (this is ONLY temporary)
> > - Reason to believe that one participant has tried to speak using several
> >    distinct identities (this removal is permanent).
> >
> > What kind of assurance in the rules would reassure you, given that what
> you
> > fear isn't possible when following the rules?
> >
> >                 Harald
> >
> > --
> > Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> > Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
>
> Regards,
>
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