Re: [ga] Re: What list forwards to what list

[James Touton <jim.touton@netzero.net>]

Jeff and all Assembly members,

  I don't think Roberto realizes or is willing to be honest and admit that he
is not what he believes he is, the Chairman.  This to me, is obviously
a delirious display.  It is causing a disruptive element on this list and
towards this Assembly.  A terrible and saddening tragedy, much like ICANN
itself....

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Roberto and all,
>
>   What authority?  You have no legitimate authority here Roberto.
>
> Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>
> > Karl asked:
> > >
> > >  1) Is any natural person[*] currently being blocked from subscribing
> > to
> > >     this list?
> > >
> > >  2) Is any natural person[*] who is subscribed to this list blocked
> > from
> > >     posting to this list?
> > >
> > >[*] I use the term "natural person" to summarize the fact that list
> > >subscribers ought to meet the minimal standard of actually existing,
> > and
> > >existing but once.
> > >
> >
> > To both questions the answer is "no".
> > Moreover, should I find out that the information I have is incorrect,
> > and that there is a case falling in the description you give, I will use
> >  my authority to remove the block.
> >
> > This said, in the future there will be persons [*] that will be excluded
> >  either from the subscription to the lists, or from the posting to the
> > lists, but this will be done according to the rules that are posted and
> > approved, and with the additional guarantee that the name of the person
> > [*] and the reason for removal of his/her rights will be posted.
> >
> >
> > >If the answer to either question is "yes", then this list is censured.
> > >
> > > <snipped>
> > >
> > >If you don't like Joe B. or Jeff W., then set up your own private
> > filters.
> > >If you need help setting them up, just ask.
> > >
> > >But please don't use your failure to exercise self-protection as an
> > excuse
> > >to gag those you don't agree with.
> >
> > Karl,
> > You are a person that I often disagree with.
> > I acknowledge that we have a dramatically different vision of the DNS,
> > and in particular I disagree vehemently with your position on the
> > multiple roots.
> > This said, I accepted always the discussion with you, and I moreover
> > acknowledge your superior (in relation to my limited one) competence in
> > the fields of technology and law.
> > I will be ashamed for the rest of my life if I tried to censor one of
> > your argumentations, that I always read with interest, or even if I did
> > not react to the attempt by third parties to censor your ideas,
> > different from mine.
> >
> > But the case of the personalities you mention is a different one.
> > I have no idea if I agree or disagree with them.
> > In fact, I cannot recall even one single post from them that was
> > relevant to issues like the assessment of the root system, the
> > introduction of new gTLDs, and so on. Or maybe there is some, but it is
> > just drawned in the ocean of words about other issues.
> >
> > What I would like to target, and what the rules will address, is not the
> >  legitime expression of dissent on the issues, but the improper usage of
> >  unnecessary scurrilous language and/or the endless repetition of
> > stereotyped sentences, mostly irrelevant to the topic under discussion,
> > that only have the effect to limit the debate by nauseating the
> > participants.
> > Rest assured that, should this improper use of the freedom of the
> > posting rights in the GA mailing list happen in the future, I will
> > approve the reduction of the posting rights that the SAAs will propose.
> > Rest also assured that, and you all will be able to witnesses the events
> >  by monitoring at your will the unfiltered list and the report on SAAs
> > actions, if any attempt will be made by any SAA to cut relevant items of
> >  debate, I will intervene.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roberto
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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James Touton
Legal and Policy Advisory Council,
INEGRoup (Stakeholder)



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