Re: [ga] Re: What list forwards to what list

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Roberto and all,

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> David Schutt wrote:
>
> >
> >No need to do this test, these types of events occur in local politics
> >in my area with disturbing regularity. Recently, a city council meeting
>
> >erupted in a 'demonstration' of support for a local politician that
> included
> >considerable profanity and other types of derision. It was really an
> attempt at intimidation, but it didn't work.
> >
>
> What do you mean?
> It did not work because the offenders were stopped, or because they gave
>  up?

  It just worked.  And you know this.  The actions of the DNSO List
Admin., the pNC and the illegitimately elected NC have been the downfall
of the DNSO.  This is known as well.  It will continue until or unless those

mistakes are corrected.  To date they have not been.

>
>
> >But that's not the point.
> >
> >The point is that it is hard to communicate over the noise of a
> disrupter in a
> >physical meeting, the noise is an actual, physical barrier to
> communications.
> >This is why in extreme circumstances someone can be compelled to shut
> up.
> >
> >Communication via email is DIFFERENT. Profoundly different. A
> disruptive email
> >does not create a physical barrier to other communications, it is
> trivially
> >easy to physically ignore an email. You can communicate just as if it
> didn't
> >exist at all.
> >
> >The only thing left, then, is someones emotional reaction to a post
> that they
> >read either accidentally, or because they have a compulsion to read
> every
> >message that ends up in their email box.
> >
>
> And emotional reactions don't have right of citizenship here, I
> understand.
>
> Anyway, I agree it is very easy to deal with this.
> It is sufficient to provide the choice of subscribing either to the full
>  record, and deal yourself with emotions and filters, or to a shortened
> version.
> Your choice, nice'n'easy.

  It is also n'neasy to deploy private filters to whomever you wish.  This
would eliminate the desire or need for multiple DNSO lists and you suggest
Roberto.

>
>
> >Neither of these things clears the hurdles necessary to justify
> silencing
> >someone in what should be a public forum.
>
> The rules are not about silencing, but about allowing who does not want
> to listen to tune on a different frequency. Their choice! Why limit
> their freedom?

  You just contradicted yourself here Roberto.  How unfortunate of you.
Private filters will also accomplish the same goal.

>
>
>  If you are concerned and embarrased
> >by the possibility of your good name being trashed and abused, use a
> >pseudonym. There is a long and noble tradition of that technique being
> used to
> >protect oneself in public discourse.
> >
> >To many people, including myself, this difference is so obvious that it
>  is
> >difficult to believe that everyone wouldn't *celebrate* this
> opportunity
> >to let those with even the most extreme views and grating ways of
> expressing
> >themselves have their opportunity to speak their piece.
> >
> >I find it astounding.
> >
>
> Great!
>
> In other words, your idea of the GA is to turn the list into a chat
> line.

  Not at all, as I read David's comment.

>
>
> And what becomes the voting process, if any?

  That has already been laid out in some detail for you from several
perspectives and Assembly members here.  Have you been paying attention
or were those suggestions caught in your filters.  Ignorance is bliss I
suppose,
eh Roberto?

>
>
> Regards
> Roberto

Regards,

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