Re: [ga] Message from the Chair - List Rules

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Harald and all,

  In other words, Harald you are attempting to IMPOSE SELECTIVE
CENSORSHIP again!  Terrible!  You should be ashamed of yourself
Harald.  CENSORSHIP IN ANY OF ITS FORMS IS WRONG!

Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

> At 08:52 04.02.00 -0500, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
> >Will existing subscribers be automatically transferred to one of the lists?
> >
> >If so, I hope it's the full one, which preserves the status quo.  Taking a
> >limited feed should require action on the subscriber's part.  Imposing
> >this on people without even asking them is heavy-duty authoritarianism,
> >and would not be conducive to peace and goodwill.
>
> Sorry to lose your goodwill, Michael - as discussed in the rules, the
> status quo + any later additions are applied to the existing list.
>
> The full list will include all messages sent to ga@dnso.org, including
> postings by nonsubscribers and postings crossposted to other lists; it did
> not seem to make sense to create three levels (full, current and
> current+moderation), and did not seem to make sense to subject the present
> subscribers to an increased message flow compared to the status quo.
>
> >(I read your proposal to imply the reverse - that the default option will
> >be the limited feed.  Please tell me I misunderstood...)
> >
> >(I also don't see appropriate nomenclature.  I.e. the default "ga"
> >subscription is the censored feed.  That is misleading to the uninitiated
> >for all the reasons discussed earlier on this list.  Again, apologies if I
> >misunderstood what you are proposing.)
>
> Reminder: A month ago, we had a list that was operated with some filters
> applied by the list management according to the list management's
> understanding of what was reasonable behaviour and common decency to be
> expected of list members.
>
> As part of the discussion of list rules, the chairs asked the list
> management to remove those filters.
> Thus, we have this month for the first time subjected our members to a list
> where unreasonable, abusive behaviour resulted in no action.
>
> We now move towards a situation that is closer to the status quo ante of
> December, hopefully with a greater transparency of rules and procedures.
>
>                      Harald
>
> --
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no

Regards,

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