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RE: [ga] About GA membership again......
I agree with Harald proposal commented by Alf Hansen (suggesting
to replace Membership list by Membership database), and Bret Fausett
remark than the DNSO GA Membeship database should include
constituencies members.
We definitely need a forum for cross-interested debates and compromises,
IMHO no one of current Constituencies can act without taking views from
other impacted members.
Roberto Gaetano preferes the proactive action of applying for a
Membership, which sounds good but I see difficulties.
(the DNSO GA definition is restated in
http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/19991126.DNSO-GAchair-procedures.html).
I believe we have three constituencies with ex definitio restrictly
defined membership (and certainly restricted mailing lists):
- ccTLDs are managers of current ccTLD registries (whereas the ccTLDs
Registry Managers list is restricted to 243 members as provided
by the publicly open IANA whois database, which are the only ones
allowed to vote, the ccTLDs mailing list is much larger -- roughly
double size -- and includes more than one contact per
country/territory, as well as regional secretariat's staff)
- gTLDs are managers of current gTLD registries (NSI)
- Registrars are, AFAIK, limited to accredited by ICANN Registrars
for gTLDs
The remaining four (ISPCP, IP, NCDNH and Business) have charters
and published rules.
We may try to contact all of them and suggest its members to apply
to the DNSO GA Membership, but is is probably the only action we may take.
The results may vary (for exemple the ccTLDs were requested many
times to join the GA-ga list, but only a dozen are here --
it may be of course different with the GA Membership database different
from the GA-ga list).
I support the idea of having a list of GA Membership published
(without email addresses), as well as with the suggestion that
members shall indicate Constituencies they belong to.
I do not believe than we may have real problems with duplicates within
Constituencies, this is inherent to open groups only.
Elisabeth Porteneuve
NB. Two (.edu, .int) of four "forgotten" TLDs are missing withing
the DNSO GA, and it would be better to have them inside
(the remining two are .gov and .mil).
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Alf Hansen wrote:
|
| Harald,
|
| This is good.
|
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Harald
| > Tveit Alvestrand
| > Sent: 22. mars 2000 14:52
| > To: ga@dnso.org
| > Subject: [ga] About GA membership again......
| >
| >
| > sorry to have to interrupt the reminescences again, but I do think we need
| > to get some GA business items out of the way.
| >
| > I suggest that in the absence of a better opinion, we declare the
| > following
| > as the definition of GA membership:
| >
| > - The DNSO General Assembly is composed of those persons who want to be
| > members of that assembly.
| >
| > - In order to be a member, one must send an email to the Keeper of the
| > Membership List (a secretariat function) asking to become a member,
| > and giving:
| > - Name
| > - Country of residence
| > - Optionally, company affiliation and/or city of residence
| > - Email to be used for balloting
| > All the information except the email will be made public.
|
| This is what I call the "DNSO GA Membership Database". I think it could also
| be useful to have in the database info about which constituency (ies) the
| member is part of. Each Member can belong to more than one constituency.
|
| >
| > - A Member can be removed from the Membership list by:
| ****
| database
|
| (not to be confused with "distribution list").
|
| > - A request from the Member to be removed
| > - A procedure (to be defined) for dealing with fraudulent registrations
| >
| > - A Member has the right to vote in a GA vote.
| > A Member has the duty to receive GA vote ballots, and to keep his
| > registration info updated.
| *****************
| entry in the database
|
| >
| > This point set is incomplete (particularly the definition of fraudulent
| > registration), but I thought it time to get comments on a proposal.
| >
| > I know this sounds like "lex Alvestrand" again, but we've got to come to
| > some kind of conclusion on this matter....and I think this
| > roughly reflects
| > the opinion of most of the participants.
| >
| > Comments?
| >
| > Harald
|
| Best regards,
| Alf H
| .NO
|
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Roberto Gaetano wrote:
|
| Bret Fausett wrote:
|
| >
| >Hasn't it been the case that members of constituencies are also members
| of
| >the General Assembly, by default? Will those membership lists be passed
| to
| >the secretariat or will constituency members have to separately enroll?
| I'd
| >favor the former.
| >
|
| Me too.
|
| In former times we had to build in a hurry the concept of "membership by
| default", because of the need for voting procedures (nominations for
| BoD, for instance).
| In this context, the NC needed to expand the voting body to include not
| only the GA-list, but also the Constituencies (as a matter of fact, the
| WGs as well).
|
| I personally do not like the concept of "membership by default", and
| much prefere the proactive action of applying for a Membership, as a
| voluntary act, that you have the freedom of doing or not doing,
| accepting the consequences (positive and negative) af your action.
| In other words, you take responsibility for joining, and in the future
| you could not claim that it was done automatically, maybe even without
| you knowing it.
|
| Furthermore, we may have requirements for membership, that are not
| necerssarily the same for the constituencies mailing lists or WGs (or
| the GA-list, for that matter).
|
| Last but not least, I have a question: do we check for duplicates, or
| for "real person", or not? In other words, are we going to have
| requirements for membership that are even less restrictive than the
| requirements for subscribing to the Ga mailing list (where we require
| the subscribers to be "real persons", and we challenge duplicates?
|
| Regards
| Roberto
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