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Re: [ga] Older Registrations



At 11:16 PM 3/28/00 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:

"The IANA has the discretionary authority to delegate portions of this 
responsibility"

Everyone please note the words "discretionary" and "authority" are used by 
the NSF as acting agency for the USG.

Any questions?

>On 29-Mar-2000 Simon Higgs wrote:
> > At 02:01 PM 3/27/00 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
> >
> >>On 27-Mar-2000 Christopher Ambler wrote:
> >> > There is every reason to recognize those. If for no other reason, then
> >> > Jon Postel caused a number of individuals and companies to spend
> >> > good resources in time and money based on his request to show working
> >> > code previous to process.
> >>
> >>All I have to say to this is that you should have made sure that he indeed
> >>had the authority he was claiming to have.
> >
> > Jon Postel did have the authority to add new TLDs to the root. The 
> evidence
> > is sitting in the root zone right now. His actions were, specifically, as
> > head of IANA & contracted to the NSF/USG, to establish the process and
>
>His authority existed solely with regard to ccTLDs.  NSF's actions make this
>clear.  Provide documentary evidence to back up your claims, or just admit you
>are wrong.

Since I'm not wrong, let's start with an NSF InterNIC document:

ftp://ftp.internic.net/nsf/nren-solicitation.txt
***Start Quote***
This  project  solicitation is issued pursuant  to  the  National
Science  Foundation Act of 1950, as amended (42  U.S.C.  1861  et
seq)  and the Federal Cooperative Agreement Act (31 U.S.C.  6305)
and is not subject to the Federal Acquisition Regulations.
[SNIP]
1.  (P) Registration Services
The provider of registration services will function in accordance
with  the provisions of RFC 1174.  As stated in RFC 1174,  "[T]he
Internet system has employed a central Internet Assigned  Numbers
Authority  (IANA)  for the allocation and assignment  of  various
numeric  identifiers needed for the operation  of  the  Internet.
The  IANA  function  is performed by the University  of  Southern
California's  Information Sciences Institute.  The IANA  has  the
discretionary   authority   to   delegate   portions   of    this
responsibility   and,  with  respect  to  numeric   network   and
autonomous  system  identifiers, has lodged  this  responsibility
with  an Internet Registry (IR)."  Moreover, in cooperation  with
the  IANA,  the IR may create delegate registries  to  carry  out
registration services for specified domains.
***End Quote***

No mention of any limitations to ccTLDs here. Now let's see what RFC1174 says:

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1174.html
***Start Quote***
1.2.  Introduction
    Throughout its entire history, the Internet system has employed a
    central Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) for the allocation
    and assignment of various numeric identifiers needed for the
    operation of the Internet.  The IANA function is performed by USC
    Information Sciences Institute.  The IANA has the discretionary
    authority to delegate portions of this responsibility and, with
    respect to numeric network and autonomous system identifiers, has
    lodged this responsibility with an Internet Registry (IR).  This
    function is performed by SRI International at its Network Information
    Center (DDN-NIC).
[SNIP]
1.3.  Proposed Method of Operation
    It is proposed to retain the centralized IANA and IR functions.
    The IR would continue to be the principal registry for all network
    and autonomous system numbers.  It would also continue to maintain
    the list of root Domain Name System servers and a database of
    registered nets and autonomous systems.
***End Quote***

Again, no mention of ccTLDs. Just lots of authority for lots of system & 
network identifiers, including domain names.

http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/releases/iana.shtml
***Start Quote***
The IANA has managed the root of the DNS to promote stability and
robustness. This role is primarily one of making minor technical decisions
about the location of root nameservers, the qualifications of applicants to
manage country code top level domains, and evaluating any additions to the
established generic top level domains which are proposed by the
community.
[SNIP]
The IANA is the name for the function for the allocation and
assignment of various identifiers needed for the operation of the
Internet, which function was assigned by DARPA to the
Information Sciences Institute (ISI) of the University of
Southern California pursuant to contracts between DARPA
and ISI. Under the DARPA contracts, ISI (through the IANA
function) has the discretionary authority to delegate portions of
this function, and has delegated that portion of the
responsibility concerning some aspects of numeric network and
autonomous system identifiers to an Internet Numbers Registry
(IR), previously performed by SRI International and currently
performed by NSI. See RFC 1174 and Section H.1., NSF
Solicitation for Network Information Services Manager for
NSFnet and the NREN ("ISI (as the IANA) ha[s] delegated
to the DISA NIC (currently NSI) the registration of users for
the Internet").
***End Quote***

The Internet Society disagrees with you. Specifically, there is authority 
to evaluate new gTLDs.

http://www.networksolutions.com/legal/internic/cooperative-agreement/agreement.html
***Start Quote***
D. Moreover, in cooperation with the IANA, the IR may create
    delegate registries to carry out registration services for
    specified domains.
[SNIP]
F. The Non-military internet registration services to be
    provided under this agreement will initially include, but not be
    limited to, the following:
          1. Domain name registration
          2. Domain name server registration
          3. Network number assignment
          4. Autonomous system number assignment
***End Quote***

This explains the function of the RFC1591 application process for new TLDs, 
and is one more confirmation of RFC1174.

I dunno William. The evidence is overwhelmingly against you.




Best Regards,

Simon

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then you win. And once you have won, they join you." - Mahatma Gandhi

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