RE: [ga] DNSO ICANN board member

[Simon Higgs <simon@higgs.com>]

At 10:38 PM 9/4/00 +0200, Alf Hansen wrote:

OK. You will force all .NO domain name holders to host their domains on 
USG-root DNS servers (that's the most you can ever hope to do). It's likely 
that those DNS servers will also host additional TLDs as they are outside 
your direct control. You will police those DNS servers and remove all .NO 
domains that are not hosted "properly". Everyone who doesn't agree with you 
is forced to go elsewhere and use another TLD. If they choose a 
non-USG-root TLD you have successfully managed to create new alt.root 
customers.

Yeah, it sounds just like Europe in 1939. It makes me wonder what will 
happen in Norway to all those using the .KOSHER TLD.

>Roeland,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roeland M.J. Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@MHSC.com]
> > Sent: 4. september 2000 19:20
> > To: Alf.Hansen@uninett.no; ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: RE: [ga] DNSO ICANN board member
> >
> >
> > > From: Alf Hansen [mailto:Alf.Hansen@uninett.no]
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:50 PM
> >
> > > > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Simon
> > > > Higgs
> > > > Sent: 4. september 2000 00:22
> >
> > > > >And this I don't like.
> > > >
> > > > I agree. But certain facts of life are here to stay:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Alt.roots have been created as a direct result of:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Alt.roots should not be created unless they follow the specs
> > > defined by the
> > > IETF and the IAB. If Alt. roots have been created for other
> > > reasons, f.ex.
> > > because some people disagree to certain aspects of
> > > ICANN/IANA, the Alt.
> > > roots should be abandoned.
> >
> > I will remind all and sundry that the three most useless phrases in the
> > English language are "could've", "should've", and "would've",since they
> > are all variations of reality denial. Following that, the most useless
> > words are "could", "should", and "would", since they are all variations
> > of wish petitioning or impotent opnionizing, unless one has direct power
> > to follow through on them immediately. The ONLY thing that counts is
> > what is happening RIGHT NOW!
> >
> > Other root-zones exist, with various flavors of success and
> > implementation completion, right now. Wishing them away, won't make them
> > go away. One must look at, and appreciate, the reality that caused them
> > to exist in the first place.
> >
> > If you believe that the Alt.roots should not be created then stop them
> > now, or quit your complaining, don't use them, or ignore them. Impotent
> > venting of opinion is what we've had entirely too much of, these past
> > four years.
> >
>
>I have very limited power in this context. I will work for the establishment
>of a contract between someone (probably ICANN) and the TLDs (perhaps an
>identical contract for both gTLDs and ccTLDs) where operation an management
>of the ICANN root servers will be included. In the contract(s) there should
>("should" is all I can say for the moment...) be at least an identification
>of the (13) ICANN root servers. And also some definition of quality of
>service, responsibilities, contact points etc.
>
>I can then use my power as the manager of the .no ccTLD to sign this
>contract (if the terms are acceptable), and thereby add some quality for the
>general public in Norway using the .no domain. If other cc- and gTLDs do the
>same, we will all have a better Internet service, because we are using the
>unique a.root, as the IAB specifies.
>
>Using alt.roots should be abandoned in the contract. Unless otherwise agreed
>between both parties.
>
>Is this unfair? I don't think so.
>
>Best regards,
>Alf H
>
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Best Regards,

Simon Higgs

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