RE: Re[3]: [ga] Reform in the GA?

[Andy Gardner <andy@navigator.co.nz>]

At 6:00 pm +1300 2/10/01, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>At 10:48 10/02/01 +1100, Dassa wrote:
>
>>Mistakes made on one forum and repeated elsewhere are relevant to all.
>>
>
>Possibly. There are a number of lessons to be learnt from the IDNO
>experiment in open democracy and I am certainly one who is learning them.

Evidence suggests that you have not learnt a single thing.

>One is that constant personal abuse drives all serious participants off and
>leaves only those who, in the words of Alan McCluskey

For an example of personal abuse within the IDNO (In fact, possibly the
very first incident), one only needs to read the following email sent by
Joop to selected members of the IDNO (included quotes snipped for brevity).
Note the date it was sent:

****

X-Sender: ter/terastra@pop.clear.net.nz
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:52:32 +1200
To: Chris Streatfield <CStreatfield@compuserve.com>, dinesh@alphaque.com
From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
Subject: The new Leader Speaks..
Cc: karl@cavebear.com, mikes@sttiowa.com, andy@navigator.co.nz,
        jabley@patho.gen.nz

Listen to this:
The new dictator  elected by himself  with the support of only 2 people out
of 10 voters of the SC gets ready to lay down the rules.
Listen to the protest against the "illegal" ballot.  I have heard that one
before, when martial  law  was declared by Marcos.

Wait for him to order suppression of the SC election results (which show me
as getting 67% of the vote) on the IDNO webpage and control of the Polling
Booth.
This is quite unbelievable.

<attributions snipped>

Heil Fuehrer Bradley. Instructions. Transfer of power. Jawohl.
It is urgent that the provisions for snap elections are ratified a.s.a.p.
so that this coup can be stopped.

****


I am not in the habit of posting personal email, but this can hardly be
seen as such (bootstrap of an orgnisation e-mailing committee members,
abusing another committee member). Note the the ICANN board now has
personal knowledge of Joop's modus operandi.

There is also evidence already made public (innocently, it seems, by a
third party) of Joop emailing new and potential members, casting aspersions
on other IDNO members (all members of the original Steering Committee that
he crushed).

For an example of Joop's attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of ICANN,
the DNSO and NC, within his "experiment in open democracy", GA members
should check out http://joy.songbird.com/kent/idno/steering/msg00067.html

The sentence to look out for is "It has helped us politically, but this is
the price we paid for the optical illusion of my "standing down".

Joop is by no means "squeaky clean" as far as responsibility of the mess
the IDNO is now in. I suggest GA members keep this in mind when they
evaluate Joop's posts to this list, and anything he says while appearing at
any ICANN-related meeting, claiming to speak for the IDNO (rapidly
declining, unfortunately) membership.



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