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Re: Re[6]: [ga] GA position on Verisign contract


Hi, William.

>
> > Maybe my perception of the consensus has been wrong, but what I have
> > registered is a lot of people that were complaining about the 
>possibility
> > that current .org registrations could have been evicted, but not a lot 
>of
> > people clearly affirming that the charter of .org shall not be changed.
> > Moreover, the very fact that people are expressing their worries about 
>the
> > eviction from .org *implies* that they estimate possible that a charter 
>can
> > be enforced.
>
>I've tried to find those messages, and found only one that says they
>were concerned about just the issue of existing .org holders losing
>their names compared to all of the others that opposed any change in
>the charter.

If I had the wrong perception, I apologize.
On one point though I insist: the focus of the current debate was on option 
A vs. option B, not the change of the charter. To make a consensus call on 
something that was not stated as the subject of the debate (even if it has 
implications) can be exposed to criticism and dilute the value of the 
position on the main statement.


>
>No, but it implies that the GA thinks that a change in the charter
>would be something that should be considered (not that it should be
>changed, but that it even warrants consideration) rather than the out
>and out statement that such a change should not even be open for
>consideration.

There's nothing wrong, once the contract issue behind us, in continuing the 
thread on the .org, and ending that thread with a consensus call or a vote. 
I agree with you that, if this question asked, the GA will answer for no 
change in the charter (incidentally, my argumentation for not making the 
consensus call is also that the question was not the one that was asked).
The good thing is that I see among the candidates for the GA Chairmanship 
the master of the consensus, who drove home some important points in WG-C: I 
am sure that if Jon gets elected he will do a beautiful job in fostering 
consensus, and recognizing when there is some.


>
> > Nevertheless, we are now discussing just the VeriSign contract: there 
>will
> > still be time to discuss explicitely about the possibility of a new 
>charter
> > for .org,
>
>Really, Roberto, are you so naive to think that if Option B goes ahead
>and the changes .org were not an implied part of the deal with
>Verisign, even if that's not what is on the papers themselves?

No, I'm not *so* naive.
But also think that with our limited resources we cannot fight *all the 
battles* at the same time. The battle for .org will keep us busy for the 
next months, once the contract is behind us - see, I'm not even so naive to 
think that any input will change what is already a done deal :<(

Regards
Roberto


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