Re: [ga] No Members?

[Bruce James <bmjames@swbell.net>]

Thank you, Dave. I have started a 501(c)(3) non-profit and now sit on three
501(c)(3) Boards. I think I might have a little more experience in IRS
regs., but not in Calf., law.

It does not sit right that ICANN has a grant for a Membership Program
Manager and computer software for members and has no members.

I am a member of the AtLarge group and did cast a vote at the last Board
Election. I think about 70,000 other AtLarge members cast their votes also.

/Bruce

~IANAL~ I Am Not A Lawyer. Seek legal advice.






----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
To: "Bruce James" <bmjames@swbell.net>
Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] No Members?


People use the term "member" informally all the time; it's
convenient.  That does not mean that their use in any way relates to the
legalities associated with formal use of the term.

People often refer to IETF "members" but, in fact, there is no such
thing.  There are participants, but nothing that constitutes membership.

Instead of looking around for non-legal examples that use the term, why not
pay attention to the very simple and direct explanations that have been
provided.  They are not very complicated.

California non-profits MAY have members, but they do not have to.  It is,
in fact, more common that they do NOT have members because of management
complexity when formal membership exists.  (I have run a 503(c)(3) and a
503(c)(6).)  I am not a lawyer, but this issue is extremely well
understood, concerning non-profit formation.

d/

ps.  What is the productive goal in pursuing this matter in such
detail?  Are there no other issues for the GA to consider?


At 09:54 AM 4/4/2001, Bruce James wrote:
>OK, I am dumb.... Why did the Markle Foundation say in its Grant:
>
>1) Membership Program Manager - 6 months including benefits    $30,000
>
>If we don't have any *Members*?? Did ICANN return the money?

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Dave Crocker   <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
Brandenburg InternetWorking   <http://www.brandenburg.com>
tel: +1.408.246.8253;   fax: +1.408.273.6464



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