Re: [ga] Re: iCANN's protection

[k@widgital.com (Kristy McKee)]

McDonalds Corporation engaged in fraudulent domain activity not too long 
ago.  I'm sure, one of our resident press folks has the references 
handy...  if I remember correctly they conceded and were forced to follow 
the rules (their argument may have been right of first use, which obviously 
does not belong to the San Diego based couple) ...

I think at this point everyone understands the USG's Representatives (the 
ICANN and the DNSO) support the rights of Major Corporations over those of 
any other entity.  We can move past this.  It's important to note that not 
everyone feels so comfortable with the USG controlling all TLDs.  China, 
among others has no interest in using the legacy root services.  We haven't 
been all that successful in the IETF in working with the brighter 
individuals and as a result IPv8, and many other advanced technologies are 
being used in development spaces and Internet Root systems that are not run 
by the USG.

This a real problem.  We should work towards it's resolution or just leave 
the DNSO to Crispin, Crocker, and their fans.

If we're not willing to create a solution that empowers the public instead 
of a few groups (of which many of us are not permitted to belong); then 
we're not worthy of existence.  We need to work towards working with China 
and other folks who may not agree with all of us on anything, not work 
toward the exclusion of China and nearly every netizen and Internet 
participant.  But we have a LONG WAY TO GO, especially considering our 
inability to publicly broadcast meetings using free software and a little 
bandwidth from our ISP constituency.  It's embarrassing to participate in a 
group who apparently has less access to technology than me and my little, 
itty bitty company.

~k



At 06:54 PM 4/16/2001 +0200, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>Jefsey,
>
>>Using an analogy is good, but keeping the analogy is necessary to make a
>>point ....
>
>Understanding the analogy may also be useful ;>)
>
>>
>>Since when McDonald/iCANN is to protect the liberty of the Burger Shops/TLDs?
>
>Who is talking about TLDs?
>The point was between McDonald/ICANN and LoneBurger/AlternateRoot.
>The individual TLDs have the choice to buy/eat what they want: they shop 
>around, check the price vs. quality/taste/visibility, and decide.
>
>Hope is clear now.
>Regards
>Roberto
>
>>
>>1. possibility 1: Roberto did not keep his analogy and his point does not 
>>stand
>>2. possibility 2: Roberto did keep his analogy and the iCANN is selling its
>>     "protection" to would be TLDs against non-legacy TLDs ($ 50.000 +++).
>>     This would then be the best recognition of the iCANN true nature I
>>never read.
>>     Watch your bed tomorrow before entering it!  May be an e-horse head
>>... :-)
>>
>>Jefsey
>>
>>
>>On 00:38 16/04/01, Sandy Harris said:
>>>Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>>>
>>> > >4. they only suggest from their own experience a common root to help 
>>> good
>>> > >relations. They support iCANN, iCANN agresses them. Where is their 
>>> freedom
>>> > >you accept?
>>> >
>>> > Wait, wait, wait!
>>> > I run my own burger joint, until yesterday I have been screaming and
>>>yelling
>>> > against McDonalds, but now I support them, I really think that they 
>>> should
>>> > let me operate in franchise, under their umbrella-organization, 
>>> otherwise I
>>> > will consider this an aggression!
>>>
>>>Exactly. Thank you Roberto. This is the best summary I've sen so far.
>>>
>>> > (and appeal to the Constitution, the California courts, the Founding
>>> > Fathers, the Red Cross, the Great Pumkin,....)
>>>
>>>Clutching at straws.
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