RE: [ga] My policy on postings - and slurs

[Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>]

I might point out that this entire message is an ad hominem attack against
Dr. Froomkin. From the most highly regarded disciple, who preaches against
the ad hominem attack at every opportunity. In fact, he is making this
attack under the guise of preaching against ad hominem attacks?!?!

BTW, I find nothing wrong with Dr. Froomkin publishing his killfile list. It
is most enlightening to see whom he does and does not listen to.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Crocker [mailto:dhc2@dcrocker.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:51 AM
> To: Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
> Cc: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] My policy on postings - and slurs
> 
> 
> By way of demonstrating the basis for taking Prof. Froomkin's 
> contributions 
> with some caution:
> 
> At 06:22 AM 4/17/2001, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
> >Perhaps therefore I should mention again that I routinely 
> killfile ... 
> >many of the more active posters on ICANN-related lists.
> 
> 1.  His note begins with the personal rather than the 
> substantive.  That 
> might seem minor, but it shows what he considers the more important.
> 
> 2.  He has frequently touted that he filters out mail, and 
> frequently been 
> explicit about who he filters.  These constitute personal 
> attacks; not 
> unique on this list, but still that means he has brought 
> himself down into 
> the mud with the rest of us.
> 
> 3.  He is pointedly filtering out serious points of view with 
> which he does 
> not agree.  That rather flies in the face both of objectivity 
> and academic 
> rigor.
> 
> 
> >On the issues of substance, I'm comfortable that my 
> published work speaks
> >for itself, and am happy to discuss serious responses that are either
> >published in a serious journal or communicated to me directly (that
> >excludes email from people in my killfile
> 
> Again, this highlights that validity of content is secondary 
> to other, more 
> personal issues.
> 
> 
> >   I would note that to date AFAIK no one has published a 
> counter-argument 
> > to my ICANN paper,
> 
> What is interesting about this comment is that it ignores a range of 
> reasons that counter-arguments might not get published, 
> independent of 
> simple logistics.
> 
> It is common for the academic community of a profession to be 
> disjoint from 
> the practising community of the profession.  (Computer science often 
> suffers from this.)  So, for example, one possibility is that 
> no one else 
> considers his views significant enough to respond to.  Taking 
> such a line 
> of analysis deeper, perhaps none of the practising community takes it 
> seriously and perhaps none of the academic community 
> considers the topic 
> that significant.
> 
> The rule of serious scientific effort is that simply getting 
> something 
> published is, at best, a beginning point; it is not an ending 
> point.  The 
> effort is validated ONLY by being taken up by others and 
> substantiated by 
> their further work.
> 
> Rather than noting that no one has published a retort, if 
> Prof. Froomkin 
> were serious and diligent about the legal import of his work, 
> he would be 
> much more concerned whether anyone has adopted his work and 
> elaborated it...
> 
> 
> >The following names in my killfile are potentially relevant 
> to this list.
> 
> So let's both start and finish the message with the personal 
> stuff.  The 
> ensures that "substance" comments are relegated to trivia.
> 
> d/
> 
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