Re: [ga] List Monitors

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Cindy,

Gosh darn it.  I do not want my son to see a lynching, nor do I want him to
witness my abuse at the protest of the lynching, and nor do I want him to
witness my abuse of those that let it happen in the first place.  If I could
only protect the fair and innocent of the hell of forging the most important
frontier of this new century, believe me I would.

So, don't touch the water with your toe unless you care enough to endure the
abuse that I have.(no citations needed) But I invite you to share with us who
will be in Sweden fighting the good fight to insure stakeholderrepresentative
reality.
As for William, he is a hero and don't you ever forget it, credit is earned and
he has earned it. By denial of due process, he has become my favorite rector of
the net.

Ultreya,

Cindy Merry wrote:

> Eric:  Please calm down.  There appears to be a lot of history in all of
> these back and forth e-mails.  I for one do not agree completely with
> anyone, but do appreciate the learning experience.  As a new participant on
> this list, relying on the rules of "polite society", a lot of folks to me
> seem a little right and a little wrong, but mostly lacking in manners and
> greatly enamored with "turf" protection mentality.  Patrick is fine as a
> list monitor; he just might want to examine his eagerness to "regiment the
> free flow of discussion" (hint: give William some respect).  Maybe William
> can be a list monitor too and he can examine his eagerness to "teach
> newbies who need to be slapped into shape" (hint give Danny and Patrick
> some respect).
>
> I think all the list monitors sound good (especially Harold).
>
> Cindy
> PS:  I'm still wondering what the GA really does?
> Oh...PSS:  Why would anybody stay on this list if they didn't have specific
> interests?  I'm still trying to figure out what harm anyone can do except
> interrupt the flow of discussion.  Do we set policy?  Do we decide rates?
> Can we influence a Board of Director?  Does what they think count?  Does
> Jon Postel listen to us?  Can we determine trademark information?  Can we
> guarantee someone the right to a particular domain name or assignment of #
> address ( I can't remember what that is called)?  What changes are we going
> to cause and what if any of those changes would be better than what we
> already have?   If this is free flow discussion, maybe all we can do is
> search for good ideas and community growth.  And to get growth you've got
> to get it from all parties.  Not just those who agree with you and I
> believe you're never going to get it by yelling at people in your e-mail.
> (Sorry for the dissertation and sorry for putting forth thoughts that
> everyone here already knows - and not very eloquently at that.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Eric Dierker
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:58 PM
> To: Danny Younger
> Cc: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] List Monitors
>
> Dear Mr. Younger;
>
> This post is a fine example of the problems with the rules in place.  Your
> first
> citation leads us to the rules you have cited very nicely.  Upon reviewing
> these
> rules one finds all in order except that there is no mechanism to obtain a
> vote
> of the GA for the removal of a monitor. It also does not state what type of
> majority vote. So I guess we can assume that I may call for a vote right
> now to
> remove Mr. Corliss as a list monitor, due to obvious conflict of interest,
> and
> if 11 of us vote and 6 say remove he will be removed.  IN CASE THERE IS
> CONFUSION I NOW CALL FOR THAT VOTE.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Danny Younger wrote:
>
> > "Certain persons appointed by the GA Chair (the list monitors) have the
> task
> > of monitoring the list for posts that violate these rules.  These are
> > selected by the GA Chair for a given period of time, but may be removed
> from
> > the role by the GA Chair or at their own request at any time.
> > A list monitor may also be removed by a majority vote of the General
> > Assembly.  Normally the appointment would be for 1 year."
> > http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2000.GA-ga-rules.html
> >
> > In response to a call for volunteers to serve as List Monitors,
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg00870.html I have been advised
> of
> > expressions of interest put forth by Bruce James, Kristy McKee, Alexander
> > Svensson, Patrick Corliss, and Harald Tveit Alvestrand.  Accordingly, I
> now
> > appoint these individuals to a one year term as Monitors of the GA List.
> >
> > Danny Younger
> > GA Chair
> >
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