Re: [ga] Competitive Roots [was Additional Mailing Lists]

["LDG" <jandl@jandl.com>]

I'm going to try to make this really clear.

There are other roots in existence.  There are many TLDs. They all use 
the DNS. They are not going away. Duplicates in the DNS will cause 
problems - big problems, especially if they re in the USG root.  

The TLD managers pretty much agree that competition among registries 
is fine in a free market (e.g., .museum vs. .travel or .web vs. .online), 
but there is no competition with the USG root in any case.  There must 
be communication and cooperation, however, to avoid the potential 
problems that exist when these entities do not communicate and when 
ICANN insists that they are "not real."  

Business models are NOT the issue.  Duplication IS a huge issue.

The ostrich game spells disaster.

On 22 Apr 2001, at 12:04, Kristy McKee wrote:

> I don't believe ICANN should be in competition with anyone other than 
> another group who wants to provide technical coordination services for the 
> USG Root servers, etc.
> 
> :)
> 
> ~k
> 
> At 07:36 AM 4/22/2001 -0700, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >GA Members;
> >
> >Do we have a consensus that these roots are in competition with ICANN?
> >
> >If they are then we should have one course of action, as in competition 
> >strategy.
> >
> >If they are not then we have another course of action, inclusion and 
> >cooperation.
> >
> >I also suggest that if it is competition then .biz is a non-issue, why 
> >would we
> >care about competitors rights, and if that is the case, we should unleash 
> >a slew
> >of gTLDs that compete with every other competing root.

That's pretty much what new.net did - mostly with colliders.  It shows a 
total lack of understanding of the DNS and a total lack of caring about 
the users.  It's bottom line thinking without regard for the DNS itself.  If 
that is what ICANN does, it is in direct conflict with the mandate to 
maintain stability.  Is that what you are suggesting?   Duplication of 
existing TLDs in order to "show them" that ICANN is bigger?  It's a 
disaster in the making.

> >
> >(someone please tell us that competition is not what it is)
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >
> >
> >Patrick Corliss wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sotiris
> > >
> > > > With all due respect, Patrick, I think it would be wise to leave 
> > aside the
> > > > topic of competitive roots.  This, because  the competitive roots topic
> > > > is really not an ICANN relevant topic; the ICANN intransigence on
> > > > competitive roots is firmly entrenched and IMHO it will take a miracle
> > > > to get the BoD to even comment on altroots.  After all, competitive roots
> > > > are just that: competition.
> > >
> > > Can't agree, honestly.  First it's an issue with New.net's drive to 
> > expand its
> > > operations.  Secondly, many people will keep bringing it up if .biz gets
> > > approved and operational.  Thirdly, there is going to have to be a debate
> > > about MultiBind.  Fourthly, we need to consider multilinguals but this is a
> > > diversion for many, if not most, on the main mailing list.    Finally I 
> > don't
> > > see why we ought not to discuss the competition - Pepsi does !!
> > >
> > > The whole issue really needs to be shunted off to a separate mailing list
> > > somewhere.  Otherwise it will keep coming back to haunt the main list.
> > >
> > > I know I have an interest in this topic but that's just good common sense.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Patrick Corliss
> >
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Leah Gallegos
AtlanticRoot Network, Inc. http://www.biztld.net
The DotBIZ tld Registry - the REAL one.  Stop ICANN
from duplicating the .BIZ tld in their root and fracturing
the Internet! 
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