[ga] Steam

["William S. Lovell" <wsl@cerebalaw.com>]

Good move, Roeland.  Lesson learned, and don't we all, every day.
The consequences of such lapses (absent a recognition of the event
such as your email here) can perhaps best be illustrated by the Joop
- WXW battle.  Joop indicated that there were (some number) of
adherents to the IDNO who favored formation of a constituency for
individual domain name holders; William referred to (some number) of
people who opposed the IDNO but yet also favored formation of a
constituency for individual domain name holders -- so what's the
chance of these two groups of people getting together here in the
friently confines of this ga and joining in a common effort to form
such a constituency?  Not much, so long as these acerbic exchanges
continue.

I had once expressed a wish to find out what this dreadful "IDNO
history" was, but I have since changed my mind: in the present
context some things are better not known.  Several people have
expressed the wish never to have the subject come up again, and I
must say I agree, except to the extent that that episode ought also to
serve as a lesson learned.  If either of the parties want to indicate
that there was more to their hassle than that, I, for one, don't want
to hear about it.  I don't filter anybody (well, there IS this one guy),
but my delete button works pretty good.

There's always steam to be let off, but I learned in physics that if one
directs steam properly to a confined piston, there will be done actual
work.

Bill Lovell

Roeland Meyer wrote:

> Joe, I apologize for the following message, that I sent to you in the public
> forum. It got my pique, but I should have sent it in private. Please chalk
> it up to excessive Reply-All usage.
>
> I also apologize to the list for this error. It is a good example of the
> very behavior I am against myself. This message does not forward the best GA
> list behavior or decorum. There is no defense, I simply apologize. Such
> public behavior is unseemly.
>
> --
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:40 PM
> > To: 'Joe Kelsey'; ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: RE: [ga] MOTION: Request for a GA resolution on an
> > IDN holders'
> > constituency (IC)
> >
> >
> > > From: Joe Kelsey [mailto:joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:34 PM
> > >
> > > Joop Teernstra writes:
> > >  > On 15:50 7/05/01 -0700, Joe Kelsey said:
> > >  > >I am opposed to any Individual's Constituency which has
> > > anything at all
> > >  > >to do with the non-legitimate so-called IDNO.  Please remove all
> > >  > >references to this organization.
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  > The Name is not important for the Resolution of the GA.
> > >  > This is why I speak of an IC.
> > >
> > > I cannot support any motion that makes mention of the
> > so-called IDNO.
> >
> > Joe, we already know that you, and your elitist buddies, do not want
> > individuals to have any say, in any part of the Internet. I
> > bet you and Kent
> > still think "blue laws" are also appropriate and human-rights
> > is a figment
> > ... Yes, we are [through your repetitive ranting]
> > disgustingly well aware of
> > your views.
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