Re: [ga] Re: Opening a Can of Soup

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

This is why we need you as the chair of one of the sub-lists, please accept my
nomination of you as chair of the ga-rules. This is a very important postion that
will give credibility to the GA, we need a man like you who can build alliances
and yet remain independent and guide productivity and freedom at the same time.

Sincerely,
Eric

"William S. Lovell" wrote:

> So here's the proof of your entire thesis.  A while back I set out to
> join all the lists and get into the thick of things. I posted something
> to ga-roots and next thing you know I see it up there as having been
> posted on my behalf -- me being a "non-member."  "What is this?"
> I sez to myself.  It seems that while I had got all the lists nicely into my
> oh-so-organized directory, in doing the actual joining I had skipped over
> ga-roots.  Duh.  Some of us just can't open a can of soup.
>
> (And yes, I did mean, "How come it's in ga and not in ga-roots.")
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> Alternate Chair wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > > Why isn't all this, and others like it, in ga-roots?
> > > And what on earth is a "owner-ga-full?"
> >
> > Well it's like this.
> >
> > The more intelligence, degrees and other qualifications a person has the
> > less ability they have in opening a can of soup.  Add to that that anybody
> > dealing with alternate roots is an independent, ornery person who doesn't
> > want to follow simple guidelines like "open can at other end" and you have a
> > big mess.
> >
> > My golden rule is that "everybody" must co-operate to make a mailing list
> > succeed but just "one" person can wreck those efforts. Let me work on that:
> >
> >     A mailing list *might* succeed if everybody co-operates.
> >     But it is certain to fail if just one person doesn't.
> >
> > Or something along those lines.
> >
> > BTW My answer to much of your question is below.  The word "owner" is a list
> > management term used in bounced messages.  I must have reposted a bounced
> > message of something of that nature and released that address *into the
> > wild* for one list member to get confused by it.
> >
> > I could ask the DNSO Secretariat to bounce posts of people who use that term
> > but that would certainly wreck something somewhere else e.g. some proper
> > posting to that address.
> >
> > So I am trying a bit of user training and education.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Best regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alternate Chair <patrick@quad.net.au>
> > To: [ga-rules] <ga-rules@dnso.org>
> > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:56:40 +1000
> > Subject: [ga-rules] Bounced Messages & Other List Administration
> >
> > All
> >
> > The GA-ROOTS list has received more postings that any of the other special
> > purpose lists.  As well the debate has been vigorous and informed.  Other
> > lists are starting to pick up and become relevant.
> >
> > Unfortunately one or two people have posted material relating to ROOTS
> > elsewhere.  One person, for example, has posted to owner-ga-roots@dnso.org
> > instead of ga-roots@dnso.org.   I have received this mail along with bounced
> > posts such as submissions by non-members.
> >
> > I have reposted three non-member submissions.  I thought some were
> > subscribed and the cause for the error needs to be investigated.  As far as
> > I can tell, there is no set procedure and I could check their subscriptions
> > or write to them privately or onlist.  Any corrective action takes time and
> > effort.  It is also useful to post ICANN Announcements or even posts from
> > other lists.
> >
> > There are therefore three types of postings I might make (1) my own views on
> > a subject of interest (2) reposts and corrections (3) GA announcements.
> > Trying to perform these tasks could easily lead me to exceed my personal
> > daily posting limit.  This would be a valid but unworthy cause for concern.
> >
> > Of course, I could easily just ignore mis-postings, filter bounced messages
> > and not re-post ICANN Announcements or other relevant emails.  I see that as
> > bowing to form rather than substance.  A better solution is to refer
> > complaints of excess postings to the List Monitors who can make an impartial
> > assessment.  Pity that this just adds to their already large burden.
> >
> > Another alternative is to make arrangements to pass this work to the DNSO
> > Secretariat.
> >
> > Clearly, list administration is a necessary function.  Personally, I would
> > prefer to spend more time on substantive issues relating to ICANN policy.
> > In fact, it is easy to forget that even intelligent people disagree or just
> > get things wrong.
> >
> > I'd therefore ask everyone to assist with the list housekeeping by (a)
> > making sure you are subscribed before posting (b) using the right "to" and
> > "from" addresses and (c) posting to the most relevant mailing list.  I would
> > particularly suggest that you do not simply blindly follow the previous
> > person -- it should be easy to tell ROOTS from RULES etc.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any constructive comments.  Should this be considered an
> > official post.
> > And if so, should it be excluded from my daily limit of five posts?
> >
> > Thank you for your time
> > Patrick Corliss
> > Alternate Chair
>
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>          Bill Lovell
>
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