Re: [ga] taking positions on country specific legislation

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Hi Marylin,

I find nothing that prohibits it except for a few thoughts.  Lobbying by a
non-profit is a skecthy area at best.  If ICANN is a subcontractor with the DoC
then that has some interesting problems.  We specifically have a GAC to advise
us but specifically do not have the reverse.  There is a prohibition of a
governmental employee or official working for ICANN (I still do not get Bildt).

OTOH policy with regards to Domain Names is clearly our business. All the
position papers and RFCs clearly effect lawmakers.  It is congress that asks for
input from our staff and BoD, surely they should get some from the GA. Under
contract the ccTLDs owned by countries are advised by APNIC et al.

So I would suggest that you are right technically but that if we do not only
other voices are heard.  We will have to decide if it should be in or out of a
IDNH constituency and the same issues will have to be studied.  I am of the
opine at this time that if everyone agrees not to do it then Individuals and the
GA should not.  But if everyone else is going to do it then we should
participate.

Sincerely,
Eric



"Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" wrote:

> Folks, I have a question about process and topics for a minute.  I was not
> aware that the GA thought that  it's role included endorsing country
> specific legislation and find this of concern.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce James [mailto:bmjames@swbell.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: Roberto Gaetano; ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] Help pass HR 2417 .KIDS
>
>     Roberto:
>
>     The US Congress is not going to let the DoC do anything to the free
> ICANN from the USG control. That is why this bill will pass.
>
>     /Bruce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roberto Gaetano" <ga_list@hotmail.com>
> To: <bmjames@swbell.net>; <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:41
> Subject: Re: [ga] Help pass HR 2417 .KIDS
>
> Bruce James wrote:
>
> >To facilitate the creation of a new global top-level Internet domain that
> >will be a haven for material that will promote positive experiences of
> >children and families using the Internet, to provide a safe online
> >environment for children, and to help prevent children from being exposed
> >to
> >harmful material on the Internet, and for other purposes.
> >
> >
> >I urge all of the GA to write, phone and email your local congressperson to
> >*Co-Sponsor HR 2417*. This bill needs co-sponsors to get anywhere. Please
> >use the link below to find their address.
> >
> >                             http://www.house.gov/writerep/
> >
> >This new gTLD .KIDS is a very good idea for the safety of our children! We
> >need your *HELP*!
>
> I strongly disagree for the following reasons:
>
> 1. The creation of a specific TLD for kids will not achieve any result,
> except to attract side by side sites really meant for kids with other
> off-topic or even counterproductive material, like kids pornography, unless
> the Registry will not be given the power to police the contents of the Web
> sites worldwide, which is illegal in some countries.
>
> 2. The creation of a TLD by decision of the US Congress is severely
> limitating the power of ICANN and ratifying the subordinate role of ICANN to
> USG. The immediate effect of this decision will be a reaction by non-US
> actors, and the real risk of a split of the Internet. Which is, BTW, why I
> do believe that US Congress will never pass such a bill. Please note that
> the creation of a .kids.us SLD will be perfectly acceptable because it will
> act under US law and not have any international ripercussion.
>
> Anyway, as a supporter of a really international Internet co-ordination body
> (which ICANN is not, BTW), I have to confess that the idea that US Congress
> might make such a stupid mistake like passing the bill and forcing the rest
> of the world to evaluate different alternatives outside the "longa manus" of
> uncle Sam tickles my imagination.
>
> Yeah, who knows, in the future we might remember this early July for another
> "Independence Day", the beginning of a movement of independence of the
> Netizens from US Government. Might not be so bad, after all, to have a tea
> party with 13 brand new root servers! ;>)
>
> Regards
> Roberto
>
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