Re[2]: [ga] [Admin] Suspension of Dierker, Fleming, Walsh, Williams

["William X. Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com>]

Note, I'm not disagreeing with the actions taken, only with the act of
taking action after so much time has passed between the violations
they note as the reasons, and with the reasons why they have been so
delayed in taking actions.

Monitoring by committee has been a failure.  It is time to adopt new
rules that will force expediency in the enforcement.

Wednesday, July 11, 2001, 9:15:07 PM, William X. Walsh wrote:

> Hello Kristy,

> How amusing that the list monitors take over 3 weeks to take action.

> The whole point of the rules and to have list monitors is for them to
> act EXPEDITIOUSLY.

> Working by committee is NOT expeditious.

> I suggest that the rules be modified to force the monitors to act
> expeditiously.  A suggestion I have made before.

> If more than 10 days pass from a list violation, the list monitors
> cannot act on it any longer.

> I Ask for a second.

> And I suggest that if the current moderators can't decide to work on
> their own initiative instead of by committee, and/or are unable to act
> in an expeditious manner, that they resign and make way for people who
> can.



> Wednesday, July 11, 2001, 9:19:27 PM, Kristy McKee wrote:

>> The list monitors note that there have been four
>> suspensions, effective immediately.

>>   Jeff Williams, jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
>>   eight weeks suspension

>>   Eric Dierker, eric@hi-tek.com
>>   four weeks suspension

>>   William X. Walsh, william@userfriendly.com
>>   four weeks suspension

>>   Jim Fleming, JimFleming@prodigy.net
>>   two weeks suspension

>> Best regards,
>> /// Alexander (for the list monitors)

>> --------------------------------------------------
>> The list monitors find that Jeff Williams has broken
>> the posting limit by sending eight and six mails to the
>> GA within two consecutive 24 hour periods:

>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:56:05
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03374.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 01:34:27
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03375.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:16:11
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03379.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:11:00
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03430.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:21:18
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03436.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:24:14
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03437.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:39:58
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03438.html
>> Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:53:37
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03440.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03441.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:07:08 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03444.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 01:15:23 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03445.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:14:01 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03449.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:07:30 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03459.html
>> Fri, 06 Jul 2001 21:33:33 -0700
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03466.html

>> The list monitors note that Jeff Williams has already
>> been barred five times.

>> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
>> rights of Jeff Williams for eight weeks. This decision
>> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> The list monitors find that Eric Dierker has broken
>> the posting limit, despite warnings and his promise
>> "I will not over post" (referenced in a mail at
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02922.html).

>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 8:48:12
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02979.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:40:34
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03004.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:04:55
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03005.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:43:52
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03009.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:00:43
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03011.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:09:38
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03013.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:07:15
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03015.html

>> The list monitors note that Eric Dierker has been
>> previously warned and suspended; the suspension has
>> been overturned.

>> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
>> rights of Eric Dierker for four weeks. This decision
>> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> The list monitors find that William X. Walsh has made
>> personal attacks against members of the General Assembly.
>> (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-icann/Arc00/msg00111.html;
>> "If you can't see that, then your prejudice and arrogance
>> is blinding you, as usual.") The list monitors note that
>> there have also been attacks regarding the history of the
>> IDNO (http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03116.html,
>> "Including your own little temper tantrum when you pulled the
>> IDNO website and had the mailing list turned off because
>> people were asking you to step down (which when you were made
>> aware of how those actions were proving your critics right,
>> you claimed were an "error" and had them turned back on).").
>> Even though discussion of an Individual Domain Name Holders
>> Organization or Constituency is on-topic, postings threatening
>> other members of the General Assembly (the posting starts
>> with the lines "I might suggest that you watch your moves.")
>> and repeating unsubstantiated allegations are against the
>> list rules which call for "a minimum of decorum".

>> The list monitors also find that William X. Walsh has broken
>> the posting limit, even though he is well aware of it and even
>> the way it is calculated (as can be seen from
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02813.html).
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:33:32
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02971.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:10:12
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02983.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:55:52
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02988.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:20:49
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02990.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:36:23
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg02995.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:16:39
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03001.html
>> Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:18:54
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03002.html

>> The list monitors note that William X. Walsh has been
>> previously warned and suspended twice; one of the
>> suspensions has been overturned.

>> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
>> rights of William X. Walsh for four weeks. This decision
>> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> The list monitors find that Jim Fleming has violated
>> the list rules by sending messages without any relevance
>> to the business of the GA to the list.
>> Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:46:18
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg03321.html

>> The list monitors note that Jim Fleming has just recently
>> received a warning for breaking the list rules (posting
>> limit violation).

>> The list monitors have decided to suspend the posting
>> rights of Jim Fleming for two weeks. This decision
>> can be appealed to the GA Chair.
>> --------------------------------------------------

>> ~k

>> Kristy McKee (for the List Monitors)
>>   Kristy McKee 612.823.2418
>>   .W I D G I T A L.Espware.

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