Re: [ga] Re: Joker.com filing "common law" .info claims

[Eric Dierker <ERIC@hi-tek.com>]

Jeff et. al,

Generally, Roeland's previous statement on this matter would be
correct but:

As of three months ago there were no such documents listed with the
Secretary of State of California.  Well that is not completely correct
the founding owner was still listed as the owner, and we all know it is
fairly difficult for our dearly departed to own anything.  (of course
the clerk could have been wrong that gave me that info)
http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C2121683
The statement of officers did not seem to be up to date either, but then
they are not in compliance with the statement of non-profit operations
either.

So I would say it is not a matter of public record, and therefor it is whatever our
staff and board say.  And the DoC just signed a contract with these guys!  I hope the
DoD is more careful.

Sincerely,
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Thank you for any response,
>
>   Your very welcome.
>
> >
> >
> > WHO OWNS ICANN???
>
>   Good question.  According to the White Paper and the MoU the
> stakeholders "Own" ICANN.  However as many of us have unfortunately
> witnessed, it seems that the ICANN BoD and staff are of a different
> belief.  This seems rather contradictory to say the least.  Perhaps
> a better question would be: "Who is ICANN accountable to?"
>
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Ross John and all assembly members,
> > >
> > > Ross Wm. Rader wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > It is a common misconception that registrars are somehow prohibited from
> > > > stockpiling. There are no such restrictions in any ICANN/Registry agreement
> > > > that I am aware of.
> > >
> > >   None that I am aware of either.  None the less John's point is still
> > > well taken as the ICANN BoD and staff have oversight responsibilities
> > > under the MoU, which is a contractual agreement with the NTIA.
> > > In addition the stakeholders have predominantly and frequently
> > > found that the preactice of stockpiling Domain Names is not
> > > desired.  Yet the ICANN BOD and staff have continued to turn
> > > a blind eye to this practice by some.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -rwr
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D." <john@johnberryhill.com>
> > > > To: <admin@consumer.net>; "[GA]" <ga@dnso.org>; "Dan Halloran"
> > > > <halloran@icann.org>; <touton@icann.org>; <mclaughlin@pobox.com>
> > > > Cc: <michael@palage.com>; <afilias@joker.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:56 AM
> > > > Subject: [ga] Re: Joker.com filing "common law" .info claims
> > > >
> > > > > Russ,
> > > > >
> > > > > What I don't understand about this is that the registrars' operating
> > > > > agreement with ICANN is supposed to prohibit them from stockpiling domains
> > > > > for their own benefit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I realize that ICANN has its hands full, busily maintaining Internet
> > > > > stability all day, but does anyone there monitor registrar compliance with
> > > > > the accreditation agreement?  Or care?
> > > > >
> > > > > There would not appear to be any incentive on ICANN's part to do anything
> > > > > about, though.  ICANN is not an aggrieved party to registrar accreditation
> > > > > violations, and it will be a cold day in a hot place if any registrar were
> > > > > ever to get its ticket yanked.  Won't happen.  It is one of those jobs
> > > > like
> > > > > monitoring dispute resoluton service provider compliance - nice idea, but
> > > > > where's the incentive to actually do it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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