RE: [ga] Webcast of Today's NC Meeting

["Peter de Blanc" <pdeblanc@usvi.net>]

Yes, that makes sense!

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 11:57 PM
To: Peter de Blanc
Cc: 'ga ml'; 'Rick H Wesson'; 'Joanna Lane'
Subject: Re: [ga] Webcast of Today's NC Meeting


Peter and all assembly members,

Peter de Blanc wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> I agree with your idea of a "foundation". In fact, I am proposing a 
> similar project for the ccTLD.

  Good!  >;)

>
>
> I might suggest, however, that requiring a majority vote of the entire

> GA to expend funds might be a bit difficult.
>
> For example, if some ICANN board candidate needed a $ 1,500 air 
> ticket, can you imagine how long it might take to get this item thru 
> the GA list? ;-)

  Well I think you misunderstood what I meant.  Maybe I should be more
precise or clear.  For instance, as a requirement, anyone requesting or
requiring funding for meetings, travel, ect. a Form should be made
available and a time limit to send in your requests for funding for
travel or whatever, even partial funding for travel, and reviewed with a
certain amount set aside for this purpose. once the requests have met
that amount, any other requests would be denied or reviewed
independently for additional funds for these or other purposes.  At this
time ONLY are ALL of the requests voted upon by the DNSO GA.  Not on an
individual basis.. Is this more clear or precise as to what I was trying
to outline?


>
>
> Seriously, though, I am proposing for the wwTLD Foundation a structure

> of a 15 member board of directors and a chairman. Each geographic 
> region would supply 3 directors.
>
> The foundation would open with between US $ 2.5 million and $5.0 
> million, which should generate a minimum of US $ 150,000 to $ 300,000 
> per year (with capital invested at 6%).

  Well you should be able to do allot better than 6%, but this is the
right idea or the idea that I was thinking about.  For instance our
fund, generates between 12.8% and as high as 34%.  So at this time few
donations or dues are needed.  However we still have a membership due
and do door knocking for donations, for special projects, ect.

>
> Each region could submit requests for funds to their regional 
> directors, who would then combine these requests into a disbursement 
> plan.

  Well yes, this in a way, what I was eluding to and briefly outlined
more precisely (See above)...  The key, is in the disbursement plan
itself. But a simple one should do well in the beginning.  Revision may
be needed later as funding and acquiring funding becomes better over
time...

>
>
> Peter de Blanc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 11:09 PM
> To: Peter de Blanc
> Cc: 'Rick H Wesson'; 'ga ml'; 'Joanna Lane'
> Subject: Re: [ga] Webcast of Today's NC Meeting
>
> Peter and all assembly members,
>
>   I think that funding for travel or other initiatives should come 
> from ICANN. However given Stuart Lynn's objection or "Not in the 
> budget" excuse at this time, it would seem that private funding is the

> only method available at this late stage before the next ICANN 
> meeting.  So in essence, no I have no objection.
>
>   As you know Peter, I would prefer the the DNSO GA and NC be self 
> funded. How or what method is used should be open and aboveboard, 
> without preference for any individual, and in the management of a 
> neutral party, such as a trust.  If done properly, and managed well, 
> reinvestment of those funds, once collected, would easily provide for 
> almost any funding needs that the DNSO GA and NC members needed. 
> However once done, these funds should be earmarked for ONLY DNSO GA 
> and NC initiated activities.  Those activities that require or desire 
> the use of these funds should also be determined by the DNSO GA 
> members by majority vote, before allocation or otherwise release of 
> those funds is forthcoming...
>
> Peter de Blanc wrote:
>
> > Rick and Jeff.
> >
> > Thank you for your comments on ICANN funding (or not funding) 
> > candidates travel.
> >
> > Would you have any objections if the travel was funded outside of 
> > ICANN ?
> >
> > Peter de Blanc
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:18 AM
> > To: Rick H Wesson
> > Cc: Peter de Blanc; ga ml; icann board address
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Webcast of Today's NC Meeting
> >
> > Rick and all assembly members,
> >
> >   Good point Rick!  ANd again one that has been made time and time 
> > again, yet seemingly ignored by a few of the ICANN BoD, staff and 
> > the NC.
> >
> > Rick H Wesson wrote:
> >
> > > Danny,
> > >
> > > I would encourage the NC not to fund travel to F2F meetings for 
> > > anyone, even if you happen to be one that benefits from such this 
> > > time
> >
> > > around.
> > >
> > > With 4 meetings a year, 3 of which cost in the thousands for most 
> > > to
>
> > > attend, I suggest that the NC and other Constituencies focus on 
> > > having
> >
> > > decisions made on the mailing lists and teleconferences.
> > >
> > > The IETF has a long history, like 20 years, of not making 
> > > decisions at
> >
> > > F2F meetings. Instead, all decisions are made via mailing lists 
> > > and phone conferences. The F2F meetings are for doing work, not 
> > > decision
>
> > > making.
> > >
> > > It will be increasingly difficult to justify who gets travel 
> > > expenses and who does not; all the while increasing the operating 
> > > costs of the DNSO which is something we need to keep at a minimum.
> > >
> > > We need to encourage everyone to use the facilities of the 
> > > Internet and PSTN to allow everyone a voice, not just those that 
> > > attend the F2F
> >
> > > meetings.
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > >
> > > -rick
> > >
> > > Rick Wesson
> > > CTO Registrars Constituency
> > >
> > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Joanna Lane wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Peter,
> > > >
> > > > During the NC's extensive deliberations yesterday on the Board 
> > > > Director election, you, as a representative of the ccTLD 
> > > > Constituency, set the criteria that any candidate running for 
> > > > this
>
> > > > job should who be willing to attend Montevideo and meet with the

> > > > Constituencies face to face. As a direct result of your astute 
> > > > arguments, the first round of vote cast on the election was 
> > > > deferred
> >
> > > > until Saturday 8th September, decided by a clear majority of the

> > > > NC.
> >
> > > > If I understand you correctly, you then indicated that if the 
> > > > reason
> >
> > > > for non-attendance was financial, then transportation could be 
> > > > provided for candidates, but that a willingness to attend was 
> > > > essential. Let me make a clear statement that I am willing to 
> > > > attend.
> > > >
> > > > Notwithstanding the fact that I have not received any 
> > > > invitations to
> >
> > > > participate in any Constituency meetings in Montevideo, I am 
> > > > eager
>
> > > > to do so, and more than happy to make the effort to comply with 
> > > > your
> >
> > > > requirement of me. I do fully appreciate your concerns, and 
> > > > understand the particular difficulties of using written 
> > > > questions,
>
> > > > or teleconferences when liaising with a diverse and 
> > > > multi-lingual membership. Prior to your statement, I saw good, 
> > > > but not vital, reasons for my attendance. Subsequent to your 
> > > > statement and the supporting vote of other NC members, it is 
> > > > obvious that any candidate who does not attend will lose this 
> > > > election.
> > > >
> > > > While not wishing to add to your burdens, and in order to not 
> > > > unfairly disadvantage any of my fellow candidates, I am 
> > > > therefore requesting that you make whatever ground, air and 
> > > > lodging arrangements may be necessary for all of us to attend 
> > > > Montevideo.
> > > >
> > > > My own position is this. I have family visiting from Europe 
> > > > until the 4th, but could leave on the 5th/6th, which would allow

> > > > me to attend the ccTLD constituency meeting on the 7th at 2pm, 
> > > > or at your members convenience, another time.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding other Constituencies, at the time of writing, I have 
> > > > participated in a 90 minute teleconference with the IPC, and 
> > > > submitted responses to written questions posed off-list by the 
> > > > gTLD.
> >
> > > > I can only assume that any other constituency requirements will 
> > > > be
>
> > > > forthcoming, including the BC, from whom I have not yet heard.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Joanna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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