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RE: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses and Election timing.

  • To: <jandl@jandl.com>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses and Election timing.
  • From: "Peter de Blanc" <pdeblanc@usvi.net>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:38:41 -0400
  • Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
  • Importance: Normal
  • In-Reply-To: <3B8127F3.29.64A1C1F@localhost>
  • Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org

A search on www.orbitz.com , which is the "all-airline" co-op web fare
search engine, shows US $ 724.00 from paris to montivideo, via madrid.

There is a fare of $ 871 from new york to montevideo.

The holiday inn next to the conference hotel has rooms under $ 80.00

Add meals, airport transfer, you are looking at less that $ 2,000.

Again, I'll gladly match $ 100 of donation to candidates that can not
afford to come.

Find 19 people who believe in a candidate  well enough to provide $
100.00, and the candidate is there!

Now as to your comment "Either all candidates should be provided travel
and 
hotel, or none, IMO.", well, several candidates are already coming, and
presumably have managed to pay for their travel. So only a few
candidates remain. Why should I, or ICANN donate travel money to someone
who already has a (paid) ticket? I would rather donate MY money to those
who need it! And I am willing to do so!

Peter de Blanc



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$724 
 
   Air France 2200
  Tue, Sep 4
 8:00p-10:05p
plane change
   Paris, France (CDG)   Madrid, Spain (MAD) 2 
 
  Iberia 6841
  Tue, Sep 4
 11:40p-6:55a
plane change
   Madrid, Spain (MAD)   Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE) 
 
  Aerolineas Argentinas 1218
  Wed, Sep 5
 8:50a-9:30a
   Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE)   Montevideo, Uruguay (MVD)
  total duration: 18h 30min 
 
  Iberia 7401
  operated by partner airline
  Tue, Sep 11
 10:05a-10:45a
plane change
   Montevideo, Uruguay (MVD)   Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE) 2 
 
  Iberia 6840
  Tue, Sep 11
 2:15p-6:45a
plane change
   Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE)   Madrid, Spain (MAD) 
 
  Air Europa 1021
  Wed, Sep 12
 7:55a-10:05a
   Madrid, Spain (MAD)   Paris, France (CDG)
  total duration: 19h 0min 
----------------------------------------------------------
 $871 
 
   American Airlines 2111
  Tue, Sep 4
 6:11p-9:30p
plane change
   New York, NY (JFK)   Miami, FL (MIA) 2 
 
  American Airlines 999
  Tue, Sep 4
 11:20p-8:23a
plane change
   Miami, FL (MIA)   Sao Paulo, SP (GRU) 
 
  American Airlines 951
  Wed, Sep 5
 10:45a-1:25p
   Sao Paulo, SP (GRU)   Montevideo, Uruguay (MVD)
  total duration: 18h 14min 
 
  American Airlines 950
  Tue, Sep 11
 5:35p-7:55p
plane change
   Montevideo, Uruguay (MVD)   Sao Paulo, SP (GRU) 2 
 
  American Airlines 906
  Tue, Sep 11
 9:25p-4:27a
plane change
   Sao Paulo, SP (GRU)   Miami, FL (MIA) 
 
  American Airlines 518
  Wed, Sep 12
 7:25a-10:10a
   Miami, FL (MIA)   New York, NY (JFK)
  total duration: 17h 35min 
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 -----Original Message-----
From: L Gallegos [mailto:jandl@jandl.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 3:09 PM
To: Peter de Blanc
Subject: RE: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses and
Election timing.


First, with the time frame involved, it could well be impossible to 
apply for and receive a grant for travel from any source.  

Second, $2,500.00 could be a very large hurdle for candidates.

Third, if even one candidate is left out of a f2f due to lack of funds, 
it would create an imbalance and appear to favor those with greater 
financial means.

Fourth, tickets purchased on short notice are much more 
expensive.

F2f is a good idea.  However, it is beyond the means of many of 
thsoe who would like to participate and should not be a barrier to a 
fair election.  Either all candidates should be provided travel and 
hotel, or none, IMO.  Since most business is actually done via the 
lists, perhaps it should continue that way for these elections until 
proper funding can be arranged for all candidates.  Furthermore, if 
all candidates cannot be present in Montevideo, perhaps none of 
them should be presented as a part of the meetings to avoid unfair 
advantage.

In addition, since there are only a few candidates, perhaps ICANN 
could use coach tickets and provide the same for the candidates.

Leah


On 19 Aug 2001, at 22:10, Peter de Blanc wrote:

> That is not a well thought out comment. We are only talking about a 
> small amount of money here, an air ticket and some hotel. Probably 
> about US $ 2,500.00
> 
> 25 persons paying $ 100 each would cover it.
> 
> In fact, I would be happy to match your donation of $ 100 each to the 
> candidates who can not afford the ticket.
> 
> Peter de Blanc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of 
> pheather Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 9:23 PM To: ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] Funding of ICANN Board candidate travel expenses and

> Election timing.
> 
> 
> So much for a level playing field for all candidates. Instead, those 
> with the deepest pockets and the richest supporters are given 
> advantage.
> 
> pheather
> 
> 
> > 
> > I fully expect any person seeking such assistance to organize
> their own
> > financial support, and I am confident that the necessary sources of 
> > funds are out there. It is up to the candidate to identify the 
> > sources
> 
> > and to ask for the money. Or at least to recruit someone or some 
> > organization who supports that candidate's position and will do the 
> > fund-raising for them.
> > 
> 
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