RE: [ga] FW: Embargos and proscriptions

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Marilyn,

I do not mean to be insultive but it is very funny that you go so far off 
topic to tell us what you do all day, in order to tell us to get back on 
topic.

For me, until I learn a little about a topic and the writers' perspective I 
withold judgment re: on topic.  I suggest that restrictions on the types of 
tools internet users throughout the world can use is pretty much something 
that helps us to understand the value of Domain Name Support, or not.  I 
also think world wide access to encryption may have Whois implications, but 
if we cut this type of information off I may never know.

Restricting to a very narrow field of vision gets us into many problems 
which can be avoided by having the most educated group possible.

Be happy, just because something is boring to one does not mean it should be 
excluded.

Eric

 folks, most of my work days are consumed with responses to the critical
> information infrastructure issues. BUT, they are not ICANN related.
> Let's get these issues OFF the ICANN work list.
> 
> Please.
> 
> Marilyn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:14 PM
> To: GA DNSO (E-mail)
> Subject: [ga] FW: Embargos and proscriptions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:15 AM
> |> To: 'Tim Devries'; Smith, Rick; nanog@merit.edu
> |> Subject: Embargos and proscriptions
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> The following link details various embargos in effect.
> |> 
> |> http://pmdtc.org/country.htm
> |> 
> |> Almost all of these entail defense and munitions. ITAR has 
> |> long considered
> |> cryptographic material a munition, under ITAR category XVII (see: |>
> http://pmdtc.org/usml.htm). Personal opinion: we may see 
> |> this definition
> |> expanded, as it has in the past. The problem is, expansion is easy,
> |> contraction is somewhat more difficult.
> |> 
> |> [disclaimer]
> |> MHSC has been involved in ITAR issues since 1997. Our 
> |> initial business plan
> |> was to provide secured services and individual privacy 
> |> through encryption
> |> techniques and services, for both individuals and 
> |> organizations. We couldn't
> |> get that past ITAR initially and when we could, the market 
> |> wasn't there yet
> |> (couldn't get any traction. Most folks frankly, don't give a 
> |> rat's tush
> |> about security, especially if they have to do anything extra 
> |> for it). MHSC
> |> goes out of its way to avoid even the appearance of legal 
> |> violations and to
> |> limit its risk of legal liability. MHSC is no longer in this 
> |> business (see:
> |> http://www.mhsc.net/services.htm).
> |> 
> |> --
> |> IANAL = I Am Not A Lawyer. Before taking legal action based 
> |> on anything I
> |> say or write, you are strongly encouraged to seek the advice 
> |> of an attorney.
> |> 
> |> --
> |> R O E L A N D  M J  M E Y E R
> |> Managing Director
> |> Morgan Hill Software Company
> |> tel: +1 925 373 3954
> |> cel: +1 925 352 3615
> |> fax: +1 925 373 9781 
> |> http://www.mhsc.com
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> |> From: Tim Devries [mailto:tim.devries@inquent.com]
> |> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:56 PM
> |> |> To: Smith, Rick; nanog@merit.edu
> |> |> Subject: Re: Afghanistan
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> Does anyone even have a list of IP blocks allocated on a 
> |> national or
> |> |> regional level?
> |> |> 
> |> |> ----- Original Message -----
> |> |> From: "Smith, Rick" <rsmith@atsworld.com>
> |> |> To: <nanog@merit.edu>
> |> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:23 AM
> |> |> Subject: Afghanistan
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> >
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Has anyone started to deny all traffic to/from Afghanistan ? |>
> |> >
> |> |> > Wouldn't that be worth it ?
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Or did I miss that post?
> |> |> >
> |> |> > R
> |> |> >
> |> |> 
> |> 
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