Re: [ga] FW: Embargos and proscriptions

[Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>]

Marilyn,

I thought this was a valid enquiry related to crisis management from members
of the Internet community trying to *do the right thing* . Seems reasonable
to me. Let's not be too hasty to criticize those who seek only to clarify
and coordinate a policy issue. It's not an easy time for anybody right now.

Take care.

Regards,
Joanna 

on 9/18/01 10:56 PM, Cade,Marilyn S - LGA at mcade@att.com wrote:

> folks, most of my work days are consumed with responses to the critical
> information infrastructure issues. BUT, they are not ICANN related. Let's
> get these issues OFF the ICANN work list.
> 
> Please.
> 
> Marilyn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:14 PM
> To: GA DNSO (E-mail)
> Subject: [ga] FW: Embargos and proscriptions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:15 AM
> |> To: 'Tim Devries'; Smith, Rick; nanog@merit.edu
> |> Subject: Embargos and proscriptions
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> The following link details various embargos in effect.
> |> 
> |> http://pmdtc.org/country.htm
> |> 
> |> Almost all of these entail defense and munitions. ITAR has
> |> long considered
> |> cryptographic material a munition, under ITAR category XVII (see:
> |> http://pmdtc.org/usml.htm). Personal opinion: we may see
> |> this definition
> |> expanded, as it has in the past. The problem is, expansion is easy,
> |> contraction is somewhat more difficult.
> |> 
> |> [disclaimer]
> |> MHSC has been involved in ITAR issues since 1997. Our
> |> initial business plan
> |> was to provide secured services and individual privacy
> |> through encryption
> |> techniques and services, for both individuals and
> |> organizations. We couldn't
> |> get that past ITAR initially and when we could, the market
> |> wasn't there yet
> |> (couldn't get any traction. Most folks frankly, don't give a
> |> rat's tush
> |> about security, especially if they have to do anything extra
> |> for it). MHSC
> |> goes out of its way to avoid even the appearance of legal
> |> violations and to
> |> limit its risk of legal liability. MHSC is no longer in this
> |> business (see:
> |> http://www.mhsc.net/services.htm).
> |> 
> |> --
> |> IANAL = I Am Not A Lawyer. Before taking legal action based
> |> on anything I
> |> say or write, you are strongly encouraged to seek the advice
> |> of an attorney.
> |> 
> |> --
> |> R O E L A N D  M J  M E Y E R
> |> Managing Director
> |> Morgan Hill Software Company
> |> tel: +1 925 373 3954
> |> cel: +1 925 352 3615
> |> fax: +1 925 373 9781
> |> http://www.mhsc.com
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> |> From: Tim Devries [mailto:tim.devries@inquent.com]
> |> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:56 PM
> |> |> To: Smith, Rick; nanog@merit.edu
> |> |> Subject: Re: Afghanistan
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> Does anyone even have a list of IP blocks allocated on a
> |> national or
> |> |> regional level?
> |> |> 
> |> |> ----- Original Message -----
> |> |> From: "Smith, Rick" <rsmith@atsworld.com>
> |> |> To: <nanog@merit.edu>
> |> |> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:23 AM
> |> |> Subject: Afghanistan
> |> |> 
> |> |> 
> |> |> >
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Has anyone started to deny all traffic to/from Afghanistan ?
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Wouldn't that be worth it ?
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Or did I miss that post?
> |> |> >
> |> |> > R
> |> |> >
> |> |> 
> |> 
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