Re: [ga] Re: participation in IETF meetings

[k@widgital.com (Kristy McKee)]

Now, Jim, why would the Internet Engineering Task Force use the Internet to 
communicate in real time?

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At 10:39 AM 10/23/2001 -0500, Jim Fleming wrote:
>You could also use the Internet to have meetings.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pete Resnick" <presnick@qualcomm.com>
>To: <ietf@ietf.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:24 AM
>Subject: Re: participation in IETF meetings
>
>
> > On 10/23/01 at 9:49 AM -0400, RJ Atkinson wrote:
> >
> > >Many have been the meetings where folks who want to actively
> > >participate in that meeting are unable to get in or unable to sit
> > >down.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I really think this is a problem with the
> > person/persons chairing the meeting. If you are the chair of a
> > working group whose meeting room is too small, you've got some
> > choices:
> >
> > 1. If this happened in the past, you need to ask for a bigger meeting
> > room. However, I understand this is not always possible.
> >
> > 2. Before your WG meeting, ask on the mailing list (which all active
> > participants should be reading anyway) for all people who are
> > planning on attending the meeting and actively participating to send
> > you a piece of e-mail. Count. When you get to the room at the
> > meeting, count off that many seats in the front rows. Add 10 for
> > useful IESG/IAB members. Add a bunch if you know your WG is going to
> > have cross-area interest where some people will be attending who
> > don't subscribe to the WG list. Cordon off the section with some
> > paper signs which read "ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS ONLY". No, it won't stop
> > everyone, but it will help things.
> >
> > 3. If people are blocking the door during the meeting, be a traffic
> > cop. Go to the door and say, "If you are staying, move in to the
> > opposite side of the room away from the door. Otherwise, leave." The
> > area behind where the chair usually sits is a fine place to stick
> > people. If it gets totally out of hand, you may have to conduct the
> > meeting by standing in the door; people who are just loafing hate
> > sitting right next to the chairperson anyway.
> >
> > 4. (Up on soapbox again) Do not allow lecture-style presentations in
> > your WG meeting, or at the very least do not let anyone present
> > introductory material which could be posted to the list. These kinds
> > of things encourage people to come to the meeting to try to learn.
> > That's not why we're having these meetings. There should be NO NEW
> > INFORMATION presented at WG meetings. If at least an introduction to
> > the topic has not been written up and posted to the list, discussion
> > of that topic should not be allowed in the WG meeting. The content of
> > a WG meeting should be without surprise.
> >
> > Personally, I think this is a fine idea for BOFs too: You're posting
> > an agenda before the meeting anyway; make sure any needed information
> > is written up and posted before the meeting and make sure that the
> > agenda has URLs for that information. Now, I understand that BOFs are
> > in a somewhat different position and sometimes there's going to have
> > to be presentation of new material in BOF meetings, but that needn't
> > always be the case. WGs, of course, have no excuse.
> >
> > pr
> > --
> > Pete Resnick <mailto:presnick@qualcomm.com>
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> >
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