Re: [ga] Songbird in the BC?

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

The following is one of the finest examples of elitist crap one can find.  I can
just see this - Old chap smoking a fancy pipe while directing his boy to clean
his eight iron,  "but of course anyone can join the club old boyo,  Oh and by
the way here is a statement regards ISPs my barrister drew up for your ignorant
understanding"

Get a grip Crispin your elitist days are numbered.  Tell us about the Yacht Club
deal.  Tell us about your consultancy with ICANN - how about a financial
disclosure?

Better yet disclose your relationship with the executive committee of our BoD.
Is there a stipend that the GA could use associated with such services.  While
Roberts tells us that ICANN cannot support a GA or an AL tell us how much they
afford on your services.  And you are a member of two Constituencies?

Come clean or drop your comments Mr. lonely bird.  I used to think that what you
do is your business but now I see that you take money that could allow
individual users a voice on the Internet.  I hope you sleep well.

Quite Sincerely,
Eric

Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:34:38PM -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> > Jefsey, you indicated that Songbird recently became a member of the
> > business constituency.  The Songbird website
> > http://songbird.com/songbird/index.html seems to indicate that the
> > company is primarily an ISP.
>
> ISP's, by the definition used in the ISP and BC constituency,
> fundamentally provide internet connectivity to end users.  Songbird does
> not provide internet connectivity to anyone.  Instead, Songbird's
> services are limited to website hosting, design, development, and
> consulting.  Entities that provide these services are sometimes loosely
> referred to as ISPs, because the term "ISP" is used differently by
> different people.  But as it is used in ICANN, Songbird is not an ISP.
> (There is another term common in the business, "Internet Presence
> Provider").
>
> > How then can it be a full member of the BC
> > instead of merely an admitted observer?
>
> You could have figured this out yourself, but of course that would not
> serve your purpose.
>
> > BC Charter:  "Legally recognized for-profit business enterprises that have
> > been in business for less than one year and companies whose predominant
> > business is to be a registry, a registrar or an ISP cannot have full
> > membership status, but may become observers."
> >
> > I seems that Kent has developed the knack of being in a number of
> > constituencies simultaneously while the rest of us remain unrepresented.
> > Interesting.
>
> Yes, it is interesting.  It proves that the claims that you and others
> make about being unrepresented are simply bogus noise.  Anyone who
> seriously wants to participate can do so.
>
> --
> Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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