[ga] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] WHOIS and registered DNS servers: DNS nameservers with domain names under ccTLDs unable to resolve domain names undergTLDs

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Vany and all,

  It think it is fairly clear that the ICANN staff folks do not know how
to make such changes properly and certainly not in a timely manner.
This if course as you nicely point out leads to another problem
as well that is very ferboding as well and also points out how
inept and the ICANN staff seems to be.

Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:

> Marc:
>
> I told you already that we, the AdCom notified to Randy about changes
> and then, naturally Randy proceed to delete us from his DNS server.  We
> though that NSI would update information veyr fast, but still doesn't
> answer regarding the update ICANN staff made.
>
> Forget for one minute about NCDNHC.ORG.  I am talking about a general
> problem.  Many Registrars automatically detect if the DNS you provided
> is valid or not.  For them, if they cannot find the hostname and the IP
> address under their WHOIS database (which only have information of the
> gTLDs), they simply won't let you to put such information.  Almost all
> Registrars has webinterfaces where you can
> manage your domain by means of an account, so this is not a problem.
>
> The ability to provide as DNS server which hostname is under a ccTLD to
> resolve a domain name under a gTLD, should be standarize and automatic
> and not something that offers certain Registrars as a feature.
>
> Best Regards
> Vany
>
>
>
> Marc Schneiders wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, at 15:59 [=GMT-0500], Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales wrote:
> >
> > > And, in the meanwhile I am writting this, now I am begining to suspect
> > > why our domain NCDNHC.ORG has delayed a lot in being
> > > setted up with the new DNS server IP:  because the primary DNS server we
> > > provided is under a ccTLD.
> >
> > I cannot believe this. Two nameservers under .NL (see below). No problems
> > at all for the ORG I represent. True, the primary is under .NET. If this
> > would be the problem for the non working dns for ncdnhc.org, I would guess
> > that icann@icann.org (the responsible admin contact) could solve it.
> > Certainly it would _not_ explain why the dns was deleted on the
> > nameservers that were and are in the ORG zone before the new one is
> > working... Also I _know_ that any registrar can add a ccTLD nameserver for
> > use with com/net/org names. I would think that the mother of all
> > registrars, NetSol, where ncdnhc.org is registered, could do the same. If
> > not, I suggest transferring the domain to Tucows/OpenSRS, which does the
> > trick in one or two days. Really. And it also gives you management of the
> > dns over a webinterface.
> >
> > fuchsia:marc {529} dig vanhamel.org. ns @a.gtld-servers.net
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> vanhamel.org. ns @a.gtld-servers.net
> > ; (1 server found)
> > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> > ;; got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
> > ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> > ;; QUERY SECTION:
> > ;;      vanhamel.org, type = NS, class = IN
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > vanhamel.org.           2D IN NS        PAN.BIJT.NET.
> > vanhamel.org.           2D IN NS        NS2.SECONDARY.NL.
> > vanhamel.org.           2D IN NS        NS2.GLOBALXS.NL.
> >
> > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > PAN.BIJT.NET.           2D IN A         213.196.2.97
> >
> > ;; Total query time: 114 msec
> > ;; FROM: fuchsia.bijt.net to SERVER: a.gtld-servers.net  192.5.6.30
> > ;; WHEN: Wed Nov 28 01:55:42 2001
> > ;; MSG SIZE  sent: 30  rcvd: 129
>
> --
> Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, BSEE
> Information Technology Specialist
> Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
> Member of the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency
> Tel: (507) 317-0169
> http://www.sdnp.org.pa
> e-mail:  vany@sdnp.org.pa
>
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Regards,
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