[ga] Contract with USG

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Wait just a second,

Mr. Gomes is not VRSN under a concessionaire agreement with the USG?

Do you contend that you operate under normal market conditions and forces?

Do you contend that you can get sole access to public resources and then
act
in any manner consistent with making profits?

Everything you have written in the last 48 is consistent if not for the
fact that
you are handling a public resource under contract with the USG.

So the answer to all your questions below is a big NO.  You are not GM or
IBM, the resources you are talking about are not of your own making.  These

resources that you are making money off of do not belong to you.  By Fiat
of
the last US administration these resource belong to the World Wide Public.

So let us get back on track and have you asking for approval from us your
public.

Who knows you may get it.

Sincerely,
Eric

George Kirikos wrote:

> Hello,
>
> --- "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
> > Are you opposed to VeriSign Registry making a profit?
>
> No, not at all. I don't believe it should be taking over an existing
> industry, one with numerous business models and competitors, to offer a
> system that makes me and many others worse off. Those others *include*
> many registrars who are happy with things the way they are now.
>
> > How would this put existing market participants out of business?
>
> Under this proposed regime, are you saying that I can continue to
> contract with NameWinner to try to catch an expiring premium name (such
> as Cheerleaders.com or Beijing.com or Compare.com), even if someone
> else has the WLS slot on that name? Will NameWinner still be in
> business?
>
> > What
> > would prevent you from participating in this?
>
> Under a current system such as NameWinner, or private systems, I only
> pay for a name if I get it. They're able to make a profit charging only
> $25 RETAIL on many names they catch, yet Verisign's minimum price will
> be $46 WHOLESALE (although, a competitive retail market will probably
> end up being $1 or $2 above WHOLESALE -- great profits for the other
> registrars that have been forced out of their business models).
>
> Are you open to Dotster/NameWinner or other market participants making
> a counterproposal to your offer to registrars? If they wish to make a
> proposal, what consensus/conditions do you believe constitute
> "acceptance" of their proposal, that will satisfy you that you should
> abandon your WLS proposal?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/
>
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: George Kirikos [mailto:gkirikos@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:36 PM
> > > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > > Cc: ga@dnso.org; discuss-list@opensrs.org
> > > Subject: RE: Further Thoughts on Deleted Names, with some SnapNames
> > > stats
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > --- "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
> > > > George,
> > > >
> > > > VeriSign profit is totally irrelevant as to the competitive
> > market.
> > > > Please help me understand what is noncompetitive?  Every
> > registrar
> > > > would
> > > > have equal opportunity to participate or not participate, their
> > > > individual choice.  It is your perogorative to be opposed
> > > to VeriSign
> > > > Registry making a profit, but please don't use that as an
> > argument
> > > > related to competitiveness.
> > >
> > > I'm not opposed to Verisign registrar making a profit, if it
> > offered a
> > > Drop Service that operated at the registrar level, similar to
> > existing
> > > market participants such as Snapnames, eNom, NameWinner, etc. (I've
> > > sent a list in a prior message). My problem is leveraging the
> > monopoly
> > > power of the registry, to enter a "new business", which puts
> > existing
> > > market participants out of business (surely all existing market
> > > participants would not be able to continue in their business with
> > the
> > > proposed regime, but would be forced to only resell WLS
> > subscriptions,
> > > or exit the business entirely. That's anti-competitive, and removes
> > > opportunities for innovation.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > George Kirikos
> > > http://www.kirikos.com/
>
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