Re: [ga] [fwd] Steering Group for icannatlarge.com. (from: roessler@does-not-exist.org)

["William S. Lovell" <wsl@cerebalaw.com>]

So strike one against the separate listings!  If there's any reason
for making
the distinction (which there may be, but I don't see it yet), the two
lists should
at least be on the same page, with buttons to select therebetween just
as one
can now select between an alphabetical and chronological listings.

And no, you're not a part of any "select elite." Fact is, who are you? (Just
kidding!) In any case, right now a member is a member, and it is important
to reach some threshold number (100 still sticks in my head for some reason),
since we might then do some actual decision making.

And nice to meet you!  :-)

Bill Lovell

Jeanette Hofmann wrote:

On 28 Feb 2002, at 11:50, William S. Lovell wrote:

> So where did this Steering Group come from? Especially since
> three of its "members" have evidently not even registered for
> membership in ICANN-AT-LARGE!  (Aizu, Hofmann,
> and Wong).

I am sorry, I was among the first who registered yesterday. It just takes a bit longer to
discover my name since Joop finds it more transparent to list those without domain names
in a separate directory. Moreover, I don't consider myself to be part of a select elite.
If anybody else feels like replacing me, I am more than willing to give up this position.

jeanette

Talk about a setup! There are grave political
> mistakes being made here already, which should have been
> thought through.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that nothing
> can be done by ICANN-AT-LARGE until it reaches a
> threshold membership -- 100, as I recall -- so it seems
> premature and quite unauthorized to be talking about
> some "Steering Group" about which no one out here in
> the boonies has had the slightest say.
>
> The organization run by a select elite, allowing no input
> from individual members, and working behind the scenes,
> is precisely what ICANN is all about, which I understood
> THIS group was to get away from. Well, this is a miserable
> start, methinks, and augers not well at all for the future of
> ICANN-AT-LARGE.
>
> This is the equivalent of the "pre-incorporation" stage, and
> the rules are made up as one goes along, while ensuring
> that the desired tone for the ultimate organization is set as
> the people involved intend.  Rather than the present "rule
> by fiat" that evidently created this "Steering Group," there
> might well be a posting in which those actual members
> of ICANN-AT-LARGE who would be willing to serve
> on a Steering Group post their names, and then when some
> arbitrary minimum number is there, and the membership is
> large enough to do so, a poll of all the members selects
> some fixed number of Steering Group members, perhaps
> 5 or 7 or so. The Steering Group becomes those 5, 7
> )or whatever number that might be) who garner the most
> votes -- each ICANN-AT_LARGE member votes for
> that same number of candidates.
>
> I must say that I also don't like the smell of the "Statements"
> policy: those posts "of sufficient interest" get posted over on
> the Statements page, with the selection of those posts that
> so qualify again being in the hands of one person -- nothing
> against any of these people, who in fact said good things, but
> just look at the Statements page and see who qualified.
>
> Joop Teernstra or anyone else who purports to act
> unilaterally in some assumed leadership position with
> single-handed, agenda-based policy execution will
> undoubtedly kill ICANN-AT-LARGE as it is aborning.
>
> Bill Lovell
>
> Thomas Roessler wrote:
>
> > ----- Forwarded message from Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org> -----
> >
> > From: Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > To: forum@atlargestudy.org
> > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:38:19 +0100
> > Subject: Steering Group for icannatlarge.com.
> > Mail-Followup-To: forum@atlargestudy.org
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i
> >
> > For your information: A closed mailing list with public web archive
> > has been set up for the "editorial panel" for icannatlarge.com
> > mentioned earlier by Joop on various mailing lists.
> >
> > The archives are updated every two hours, and are available at
> > <http://www.fitug.de/icann-alsg/>.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > --
> > Thomas Roessler                        http://log.does-not-exist.org/
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
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