RE: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn

["Peter de Blanc" <pdeblanc@usvi.net>]

Jeff:

1. The "setting up" only took us a few hours, not a few days!
The discussion about where, how, and who would manage took a month.

2. I did not realiuze that Verisign just announced that they will NOT be
matching what already has been paid in. Did I miss something somewhere?

Peter de Blanc

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
Williams
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:04 PM
To: Peter de Blanc
Cc: DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org; RCochetti@verisign.com
Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn


Peter and all assembly members,

Peter de Blanc wrote:

> I do not agree about "worthless pledges".

  Of course I am not surprised that you don't agree...

>
>
> I was /am on the Names Council, and Budget committee, and went thru 
> the entire process. The fact is, that at least 6 months have gone by 
> with no contributions to that fund.

  This is mainly because the GA was not allowed to set up it's own fund
or collect it's own funds that may have contributed
later or at the same time by the NC.   That was a very bad
tactical and strategic error that seem to now be coming home
to roost.


>
>
> The offer was made in good faith, and a lot of time spent on the 
> admistrative machinations about how to accept and manage the fund. Was

> that time wasted? Who knows.

  Looks like it was wasted, without a doubt IMHO...

> If we had not done everything necessary to
> "prepare to accept money", we could not now be at this stage - which 
> is simply that no one is coming forward with donations to be matched.

  INEGroup uses as part of our funding a matching fund method. Setting
up to receive those funds took all of about two days.

>
>
> I DO expect Verigign will match the donations to date, as small as 
> they may be.

  Well they have just announced that they will NOT be...  Again so much
for *Pledges*...

>
>
> Peter de Blanc
> .VI
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Williams
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:26 PM
> To: DannyYounger@cs.com
> Cc: ga@dnso.org; RCochetti@verisign.com
> Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn
>
> Danny and all assembly members,
>
>   I was wondering when this shoe would drop.  Looks like it has. Not 
> really much of a surprise.  Next will be the $200m for the ..ORT/.NET 
> divestiture...  Just another notch if the nearly worthless
> *Pledges* idea...
>
> DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> > Forwarded from the Council list: 
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00214.html
> >
> > Please note the e-mail below from Versign.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>
> > To: "'Philip Sheppard'" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
> > Cc: "Cochetti, Roger" <RCochetti@verisign.com>; "'DNSO Secretariat'"

> > <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
> > Sent: 01 March 2002 14:02
> >
> > Philip,
> >
> > Two years ago VeriSign announced that it would match any donations 
> > made to support the work of ICANN's Domain Name Supporting 
> > Organization and Names Council for up to $100,000.  The purpose of 
> > this note is to advise you, with some regret, that the offer is 
> > hereby
>
> > withdrawn.
> >
> > We have felt for some time that one of the major issues facing the 
> > DNSO and the Names Council is a lack of resources and that increased

> > resources, while not a solution to all of the DNSO's problems, would

> > go a long way towards ensuring the competent functioning of the 
> > Council and the provision to it of more and better-researched 
> > information.  In particular, we thought that increased resources
> > would:
> > * Allow the Council to hire staff to take the lead in developing and

> > implementing well defined processes and procedures to facilitate its

> > consensus management role
> > * Minimize the amount of subjectivity and increase the amount of 
> > measurable objective criteria in the consensus-building process
> > * Provide clearer direction for working groups, committees, 
> > constituencies, etc.
> > * Make it more readily possible for the NC to perform its role of 
> > managing the consensus-building process in a way that will create 
> > increased confidence throughout the Internet community.
> >
> > To encourage such donations, we offered to match any donation made 
> > by any company or individual up to a total of $100,000.  Since the 
> > offer was first made in 2000, we have repeated it and a fair amount 
> > of work was actually done by Names Council committees to design a 
> > neutral structure to administer whatever funds were received.
> >
> > Despite repeated appeals, no commitments for funds were received 
> > except from a couple members of the gTLD Registry Constituency.  
> > This is all the more disappointing given the fact that quite a few 
> > companies who are several times larger than VeriSign have employees 
> > who sit on the Names Council and participate in most of its 
> > committees; and that there are now nearly 100 gTLD registrars, eight

> > gTLD registries, well over a hundred ccTLD operators, and hundreds 
> > of ISP's and re-sellers who purchase and re-sell domain name 
> > registration
>
> > services.  Many of these are profitable and many are quite large, so

> > their reason for not donating anything to the DNSO has never been 
> > clear.
> >
> > Possibly the reason donations were not received is not so much a 
> > result of organizations not being willing or able to make them but 
> > rather a result of the fact that the NC itself never promoted this 
> > offer.  It is our opinion that it is critical to create and 
> > implement processes and procedures to facilitate the NC's consensus 
> > management role in an objective manner.  So it seems unfortunate 
> > that the NC has never taken any meaningful action to establish 
> > objective, community-wide consensus management processes.
> >
> > After trying to help the DNSO through community donations for almost

> > two years, the time has come to recognize that this approach did not

> > work.
> >
> > Please forward this communication to the Names Council.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Chuck Gomes
> > Vice President, Policy & Compliance
> > VeriSign Global Registry Services
> >
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> Regards,
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