Re: [ga] Consensus on consensus?

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Please Danny, don't confuse what a consensus is (a total agreement should 
certain conditions be met) with what the ICANN pretends it to be (a 2/3 
majority vote by the smallest group where that majority can be met). Like 
it or not, the world is no more in democracy, it is in consensus. Watch 
around you: consensus is carried by the "community correct". Observe also 
that in quite all the democracies elections tend to be by 50/50 and low 
voter figures. This shows that people are equaly unatease with the current 
system they equally find inadequate. Yet no one know much today how a 
consensus works. One of our problems: by nature the Internet is an 
innovation and we meet the problems we contributed to create. jfc


On 02:04 27/03/02, DannyYounger@cs.com said:
>Karl Auerbach in his "Prescription-to-Promote" has argued that:  "The concept
>of "consensus" must be discarded", with all decisions to be based on counted
>voting using clearly defined procedures such as Robert's Rules.   Stuart Lynn
>has likewise argued that a private sector body, based on consensus and
>consent, has been shown to be impractical.
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>This begs the question... is it time to replace the consensus process?  If
>so, how do we avoid establishing a structural model that relegates certain
>groups automatically to minority status?   ICANN seems to be enamoured with
>voting blocks... Can we move to a one-man/one-vote mechanism, and will such a
>move be accompanied with full membership rights for all participants?
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>ICANN doesn't have the greatest track record with respect to honoring
>consensus... can we expect it to honor an actual vote of the complete
>membership?  More questions than answers at this point...
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>for Karl's treatise, see:
>http://www.cavebear.com/rw/prescription-to-promote.pdf
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