Re: [ga] Re: Survey

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

>   Again why should any additions rely on any one person to be
> considered or added to the survey?  Such a requirement
> creates a single point of failure, as well as violates the
> Open and transparency requirement of the MoU and the White
> Paper.

For the simple reason that distributed drafting doesn't work (at some point,
someone has to sit in front of the text input device and bang some keys -
definite single point of failure there).

I fail to see where this violates the MoU/WP as well - if there is consensus
in the <insertforumname> that the designate rep should take a position
forward and if that rep is successful in convincing the other TF members
that the position is a GoodThing(TM) then that position will be reflected in
whatever output the TF produces.

In my mind, this is a much healthier process than the working groups because
the various positions from each group already constitutes rough consensus
leaving the TF almost solely to deal with how the various positions best fit
together. This stands in stark contrast to the WG proceedings that I have
seen to this point that see the WG dealing with procedural wrangling due to
the sheer volume of participants. The TF model is certainly more removed
from the front line, but then again, not every citizen gets a seat in the
house of representatives anyways...

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>
Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Survey


> Ross and all assembly members,
>
>   Again why should any additions rely on any one person to be
> considered or added to the survey?  Such a requirement
> creates a single point of failure, as well as violates the
> Open and transparency requirement of the MoU and the White
> Paper.
>
> Ross Wm. Rader wrote:
>
> > It never came up during any discussion. As mentioned previously however,
its
> > not too late to get additions dropped in via Dan (as the GA constituency
> > rep...)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -rwr
> >
> > Please review our ICANN Reform Proposal
> > Realname Keyword: Heathrow Declaration
> > Old Skool DNS Address: http://www.byte.org/heathrow
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> > To: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>;
<ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:58 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ga] Re: Survey
> >
> > > Ross,
> > > Where is the question about the bankruptcy clause?
> > > Regards,
> > > Joanna
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Ross
Wm.
> > > Rader
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 6:41 PM
> > > To: DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Survey
> > >
> > >
> > > Danny - feel free to stand by them, but you incorrect in this case.
Not
> > > having bothered to check the link that you presented as proof of some
> > > conspiracy, I can't talk on an informed basis concerning which draft
of
> > the
> > > survey that you are talking about - however, this document has
undergone
> > > many revisions - all based on input and criticism put forth by the
> > drafting
> > > team.
> > >
> > > At this point, I can't remember who was even responsible for putting
> > forward
> > > the first draft (I can look it up when I get back to the office if its
> > > important) - but I do distinctly remember a number of conversations,
> > dozens
> > > of emails and a conference call or two between thedrafting team
members
> > > through the preparation of this draft.
> > >
> > > The important task now is for the TF to read through this draft, tear
it
> > > apart (or not) and get it into the hands of users that aren't
> > > directly/officially represented in ICANN.
> > >
> > > -rwr
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> > > To: <ga@dnso.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:18 PM
> > > Subject: [ga] Re: Survey
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dan Steinberg has asked that I retract the accusation that:
> > > >
> > > > "Why don't you come clean, and admit that this is solely Ross's
> > > > work-product that you modified only in the most minor of ways"
> > > >
> > > > I stand by my comments, and have produced a side-by-side comparison
> > > between
> > > > the survey questions created by Ross and the survey questions
produced
> > by
> > > the
> > > > "small group of TF members" posted at
> > http://www.icannworld.org/survey.htm
> > > >
> > > > Let the GA decide if anything more than minor modifications are
present.
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