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Re: [ga] The rebid vote
I personally would support a rebid demand myself
since I feel the current process is both open-loop and failed to answer a number
of critical questions.
Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:51
AM
Subject: [ga] The rebid vote
I don't know why all you folks continue to succumb to this
whole bit. I count 17 emails with the heading "Point of Order," and
not a nickle's worth of input on the wording of the proposed motion, or
indeed very much at all. This "vote" will be conducted by Thomas Roessler,
under the dictates of the DNSO procedures, under very constrained time
limits that allow little or no comment, opportunity to amend, alternative
proposals, and the actual content of the "Motion" is something that has
been "agreed" to between James Love and Thomas Roessler. That is not the
way things are supposed to work.
This side-tracking onto "point of
order" issues is of course the standard tactic of William X. Walsh -- he's
been doing that for years, so as to prevent any meaningful operation of the
ordinary democratic process, and he's been getting away with it because
too many folks fall into his trap. As to the "Motion" itself, Thomas
Roessler asked for a list of 10 supporters of it, and Joanna Lane posted
both the Motion and the list of supporters.(However, motions do not
ordinarily include within their wording any explanations thereof.) James
Love reasonably asked about how the wording would be settled, would there
be any other motions and so on, and the answer from Thomas Roessler seems
to be that there will be only the one motion and "time is up." The
ordinary characteristics of a democratic process have again been thwarted by
the fact that the GA indeed has no settled procedure that would
allow a meaningful length of time for meaningful debate, and I would not
blame the DNSO Secretariat one bit if the Motion were rejected because it
had no cognizable foundation, beyond the fact that the poll
recently conducted certainly indicates that the issue garners sufficient
interest to be addressed further. There will now be a motion, but no
significant "addressing." What was presented, in terms of alternatives with
respect to ICANN reorganizing and the like, seems to have fallen into a
very deep well.
Now it is true that the DNSO procedure will allow a
time for debate. But the scope of that debate will be limited by the scope
of the one Motion, which I don't think will suffice to cover the complexity
of the issue. I've suggested that within the GA itself, before anyone
rushes to the Chair with something called a Motion, there be extensive
debate and discussion, so that all of the elements of the issue will be
known to everyone, and from that a most meaningful Motion would emerge that
at that time would be presented to the Chair. It is only by
that kind of procedure that the slim chance that the BoD would pay any
attention to it anyway might be enhanced. I've said before, and I'll
say it again, that the GA is a third-world country, run for years by a
dictatorship, and the GA members cannot get themselves out of that because
they don't understand how the democratic process works, and hence continue
to bow to the rules of the dictator. Those rules seem to have been set up
with that very intent: by definition, anything that runs that
constrained course will show a lack of any consensus, and the BoD will
routinely so announce. Very few in the GA seem to have the ---- to
have the GA proceed on its own, outside of the deliberately
constrained DNSO procedures. To those Pavlovian dogs who will now
salivate in the form of saying that anything so done would have "no
official status," please allow me a moment to try to stop laughing. In
terms of ICANN policy, the GA has no status. The only difference
between toeing the DNSO line on voting and the GA doing it on its own is
that the latter choice, wherein free democratic processes might occur,
would more likely produce definitive, meaningful results from which a real
consensus might well emerge.
Bill Lovell
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