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Re: [ga] Roessler Comments on Mission Paper
Here is the whole string.
Joe Sims
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Joe Sims
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05/22/02 09:51 Subject: Re: [ga] Roessler Comments on Mission Paper(Document link:
AM Joe Sims)
Right. That makes it all clear.
Joe Sims
"Michael
Froomkin - To: Joe Sims <jsims@JonesDay.com>
U.Miami School cc:
of Law" Subject: Re: [ga] Roessler Comments on Mission Paper
<froomkin@law.mi
ami.edu>
05/22/02 09:49
AM
Writing a 'mission statement' for the grand icann is a pointless exercise.
First you define the mission. Then you can write the statement.
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Joe Sims wrote:
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> Right. Now I understand why this particular dialogue is private.
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> Joe Sims
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> "Michael
> Froomkin - To: Joe Sims
<jsims@JonesDay.com>
> U.Miami School cc:
> of Law" Subject: Re: [ga] Roessler
Comments on Mission Paper
> <froomkin@law.mi
> ami.edu>
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> They are a definition of a narrow mission. That's a statement of what
the
> mission should be.
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> On Wed, 22 May 2002, Joe Sims wrote:
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> > excuse me? is any of those a mission statement? I understand that it
is
> > tough to keep the facts straight and maintain an unblemished record of
> > criticism, but you might try it sometime.
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> > Joe Sims
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> > "Michael
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> > Froomkin - To: Joe Sims
> <jsims@JonesDay.com>
> > U.Miami School cc:
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> > of Law" Subject: Re: [ga] Roessler
> Comments on Mission Paper
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> > 05/22/02 09:30
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> > You've had Karl's, Randy Bush's, Mikki Barry's, and many others. I
have
> > decided not to put one in. The personal animus against me is obviously
> so
> > great - see for example Stuart Lynn's comments in Thailand - that there
> > seems no chance they would be taken seriously, and every chance that it
> > would be counter-productive.
> >
> > As evidence of how ICANN treats those who disagree with it, I note that
> > ICANN has not posted Karl's paper online, or linked to it, although it
> did
> > post many other less radical submissions to the review committee.
> >
> > Furthermore, it's my belief that the committee appointed by ICANN is
> > packed with people who have a fairly closed mind on the subject. I
think
> > the chance of a fair hearing there is low.
> >
> > Plus, I understand you control the agenda for the upcoming secret,
> > no-minutes Board meeting (excuse me, 'retreat') this weekend in which
you
> > will evangelize for your views.
> >
> > In the circumstances, I will not be submitting a draft. I think I know
> > what you will decide, and unlike you I don't get paid several hundred
> > dollars per hour I spend on this.
> >
> > PS. Do you bill for email too?
> >
> > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Joe Sims wrote:
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> > > As usual, Michael, lots of talk and no action. I await your draft.
> > >
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> > > Joe Sims
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> > > "Michael
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> > > Froomkin - To: Joe Sims
> > <jsims@JonesDay.com>
> > > U.Miami School cc: ga@dnso.org
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> > > of Law" Subject: Re: [ga]
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> > Comments on Mission Paper
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> > > 05/22/02 09:15
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> > > It's been done many times: you just don't like to admit it.
> > >
> > > Writing a mission statement is easy when the mission is small. You
> want
> > a
> > > big client. Your client wants to be big. They ignore the contrary
> > > voices, and you come along to shoot the wounded by saying they don't
> > > exist.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 22 May 2002, Joe Sims wrote:
> > >
> > > > While these are cogent comments, they do illustrate the difficulty
of
> > > > actually writing something called a "mission statement" that is
both
> > > > something more than a listing of specific acts that are permissible
> > > (which
> > > > is certainly not a mission statement that would be useful on a
going
> > > > forward basis) and writing something less specific that is not
> subject
> > to
> > > > the kind of word-smithing that Thomas has done. I renew the
> invitation
> > > > that ICANN has made for several months now: If anyone thinks they
> can
> > > > write a better mission statement, please do so. There seem to be a
> lot
> > > > more editors than authors in the ICANN population.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Joe Sims
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