Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>]

Dear Leah,
on a civilized network the registrant:

1. has for free a name associated with him or with his internet belonging 
on a permanent basis
2. this on only a decent thing for the others so they know where to find him.
3. he carries a smart card or has a password to access himself his DNS entries
4. he has no need for a registrar, but may be helped by a Consultant he can 
change when he wants
5. he pays for the yearly usage made of his name

at least this is what registrants of our test ULD Members get.
jfc

PS. In our countries usage, laws and contracts makes the breaking of an 
agreement to require a charged letter. Not in yours? Quite enough to cope 
with the problem IMO. In any case, sending a mail is what Verisign does.



On 22:56 28/06/02, L. Gallegos said:

>My point is that the registrant has to use the email address to contact
>the system in order to verify the transaction (email verification).  Many
>registrants use their domain for email and some even just for email, so
>that they do not have to continually change email addresses if they
>change ISPs, etc.  So, going to a neighbor to use his email addy is not
>going to do anything.  It won't compute.  That has been one of the
>bugaboos when people do change email addresses due to ISP
>changes, especially when it is due to an ISP failure or other emergency
>change.  Suddenly one can't do anything about modifying domain
>information and it all has to be done by phone.  With Verisign it is
>extremely painful to do anything via phone or fax.  Other registrars do
>not even make their phone numbers public - or at least easy to find.
>
>It is an issue whether some feel otherwise or not.
>
>The telephone or electric bill analogy is not a good one, IMO, since
>most people would be able to deal with that simply - by using another
>phone.  Verification of an email address is not necessary, nor is
>verification of the number from which you are calling.
>
>Leah
>
>
>On 28 Jun 2002, at 13:54, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
> > I have to agree. If your phone gets disconnected, it doesnt matter if
> > its because you 'thought you had paid' but hadnt or if its turly telco
> > error or lost cheque.  You still have to go visit a neighbour, or use a
> > cell phone or trundle down to find a pay phone just to establish what
> > the problem is and see if you have to do something (like pay). It's your
> > repsonisibility to find a way to do this.
> >
> > William X Walsh wrote:
> > >
> > > Friday, June 28, 2002, 1:31:08 AM, L. Gallegos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, the board approved it, but I still have a question that no one
> > > > seems to have addressed.
> > >
> > > > If an expired domain is placed on registry hold and no longer resolves,
> > > > and the contact email is based on that domain, how will the registrant
> > > > be able to "undelete" it or move it to another registrar to redeem 
> it if
> > > > there can be no contact?
> > >
> > > > It seems to me that there should be some resolution to this question or
> > > > what good is the Grace and Redemption perioid?  The only other means
> > > > to communicate in this scenario, would be by telephone.  Some of the
> > > > registrars do not even list their phone numbers on their websites and
> > > > there would be little time to handle it via snail mail.
> > >
> > > > Anyone have any comments?
> > >
> > > Personal Responsibility.
> > >
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