Re: [ga] Outreach and labeling

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

Eric, I disagree - the reason we have no outreach is because we haven't
bothered to even get the goals defined and the milestones set such that we
can approach people about joining.

Folks lives are very busy these days and to have to spend hours digging
amongst the garbage to pick out a gem here and there when there are no goals
or milestones setup to even define what would in this case constitute a gem,
simply means that we cannot go to the outside for members - they are
uninterested in getting into some organization group-grope... They need
assurance that our act is together and that we know where we are going and
that it benefits them to such a point that they cannot help but be a member
of our little club here.

What this organization needs is a goal and a set of processes for reaching
that goal... Then Outreach has a chance.

Todd



----- Original Message -----
From: <eric@hi-tek.com>
To: <genie@magi.net>
Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:44 PM
Subject: [ga] Outreach and labeling


> Genie,
>
> Yes there may be marketing involved there.
> Your grouping and obvious disdain for marketers is exactly why we have no
> Outreach.
>
> We have to get over this abundance of negativeness towards groups of
> people.
>
> Marketers, Poor people, Lawyers and Politicians have a right to be here.
> As do Gays, Women, Latin Americans, Indians, and my 90 year old father.
>
> I respect all the work you have done here and only ask your respect for
> others.
>
> eric
>
> Genie Livingstone wrote:
>
> > > Saturday, August 10, 2002, 6:45:03 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,54455,00.html?tw=wn_ascii
> >
> > Saturday, August 10, 2002 7:30 PM William X Walsh wrote
> > > His story sounds highly suspicious to me.  It is inconsistent and
> > > inaccurate with how things run.
> > >
> > > I'd by highly skeptical of this story, or at least how it is being
> > > portrayed.
> > >
> >
> > I fully agree with William, if you actually go to the site and click
> > through on the logo,
> > there is a 'nice' pop under advertisement for some porn
> > sites/affiliates/dial up
> >
> > It smells of a marketing art ... the tech details in the story do not
> > make sense
> >
> > Genie Livingstone
> >
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