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Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
- To: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>
- Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:47:08 -0800
- CC: Dora Gerber <doragerber@bluewin.ch>, DPF <david@farrar.com>, Vittorio Bertola <vb@bertola.eu.org>, "Sabine van-almsick (E-mail)" <sabine.van-almsick@be.telekom.de>, sri@domainmates.com, DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org, discuss-list@opensrs.org, ga@dnso.org
- Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
- References: <0F25F91B59355E42846E57527F331EA9C47473@lganj0se6.lga.att.com>
- Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
MArilyn and all former DNSO GA members,
Pardon the inadvertent misspelling of your given name. It was indeed not intentional.
I am glad to NOW hear that you in your post below publicly thanked
Dora for her assistance, after my suggestion of course. >;). I am sorry
that you could not afford me the same common courtesy from my earlier
post on this thread and your original request.
See:http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc11/msg01548.html
and my response providing most of the ccTLD information that
you requested, see:http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc11/msg01551.html
Perhaps such an oversight on your part was a lapse of some yet unknown sort?
In any event I hope that the references were of some yet again assistance
for you and helped satisfy your request, regardless...
BTW, is this the real MArilyn Cade or is it memorex? >;)
Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:
> Dear Jeff
>
> Of course I'm happy to thank Dora publicly.
>
> You might want to note that my name is actually spelled "Marilyn", not Merilyn as you've probably accidently misspelled it.
>
> However, I answer to all efforts to reach me.... when it is seemingly apparent that the intent is to reach the real me.
>
> Marilyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:07 PM
> To: Dora Gerber
> Cc: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; DPF; Vittorio Bertola; Sabine van-almsick
> (E-mail); sri@domainmates.com; DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org;
> discuss-list@opensrs.org; ga@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
>
> Dora and all former DNSO GA members,
>
> Dora Gerber wrote:
>
> > Dear Marilyn and all,
> >
> > FYI - this is how the CH and LI people do it:
> >
> > http://www.switch.ch/id/terms/policy.html
>
> Thank you Dora for this interesting information. I am sure that
> Merilyn appriciated it also even though she may not admit it publicly.
>
> I found the following parts most interesting (Excerpts follow):
>
> 22.Warnings: CH/LI DOM-REG may issue warnings in case of
> obvious possible name onflicts or when names are likely to
> conflict with another name, trade name, trade mark (tm), service
> mark (SM) etc. CH/LI DOM-REG, however, has no obligation
> to issue such warnings. After a warning has been issued, the
> corresponding application for a second level domain name is
> interrupted until until confirmation by the registrant in the
> form of a new application is received. CH/LI DOM-REG may,
> however, at its own discretion interrupt the registration until
> the entity seeking for registration submits within reasonable
> time to CH/LI DOM-REG a written confirmation of the holder
> of the conflicting name, trade name, trade mark (tm), service
> mark (SM) etc. that the application is valid and that holder
> agrees with the application. In such a case, a new application
> form needs to be submitted to the registry when the case is
> resolved for both parties.
>
> 23.Suspension of registration: when an entity submits grossly
> erroneous and/or misleading application forms repeatedly
> and/or in large quantities, the registry may suspend the
> registration process for such an entity until, in estimation
> of CH/LI DOM-REG, the registration process can be
> restored in an orderly manner.
>
> 24.WHOIS entry: CH/LI DOM-REG registers domain
> names in an own repository which answers authoritatively
> for second level domain names in CH and LI. This information
> may also be retrieved from a search engine run by SWITCH.
> European domain names are contained in a distributed database
> maintained by RIPE NCC which can be queried by means of
> command 'whois -h whois.ripe.net <domain name>'. This query
> supplies the name of the domain, its administrative and technical
> contacts and pointers to hosts providing name service for the
> domain. To use WHOIS with a local whois client type
> 'whois -h whois.nic.ch domainname.ch/li' for on-line queries
> of second level domain name information in CH and LI.
>
> 25.Privacy: CH/LI DOM-REG reserves the right to make
> entries in the WHOIS data bases publicly available in
> any electronic and written form.
>
> 26.Applicable law, jurisdiction: this domain name policy shall
> be governed by and construed according to Swiss law.
> The courts of Zürich shall have exclusive jurisdiction to
> settle any disputes that may arise out of or in connection
> with this domain name policy.
>
> >
> >
> > Regards, Dora Gerber
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>
> > To: "DPF" <david@farrar.com>; "Vittorio Bertola" <vb@bertola.eu.org>;
> > "Sabine van-almsick (E-mail)" <sabine.van-almsick@be.telekom.de>
> > Cc: <sri@domainmates.com>; <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>;
> > <discuss-list@opensrs.org>; <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
> >
> > > David, you are a great resource to help us find out more about what ccTLDs
> > do... in this area. Do you know what Domainz does? Is there a way to find
> > out what some of the larger ccTLDs do? Such as .de; .uk; .au; .fr; etc.?
> > Perhaps there is learning which the gTLDs can take from the ccTLDs. Many
> > ccTLDs have regisrtrations from other countries so have the postal delivery
> > issues as well.
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to post any relevant and factual responses we might be able
> > to get to the WHOIS TF list.
> > >
> > > Regards, Marilyn Cade
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DPF [mailto:david@farrar.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:47 PM
> > > To: Vittorio Bertola
> > > Cc: sri@domainmates.com; Cade,Marilyn S - LGA;
> > > DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org; discuss-list@opensrs.org; ga@dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:15:40 +0100, Vittorio Bertola
> > > <vb@bertola.eu.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:19:59 +1300, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>If the registrant is a legitimate user, then once their domain stops
> > > >>working they will eventually contact the registrar to get it fixed.
> > > >
> > > >The problem is that it might be too late - you might already be losing
> > > >valuable e-mail messages or website traffic. So even before putting
> > > >the domain on hold all efforts have to be made to contact the
> > > >registrant and fix the problem (and let alone the fact that one has
> > > >the right not to expose his/her identity to the whole world).
> > >
> > > The issue of should you be allowed to be anonymous is a slightly
> > > different debate. For now the policy is you need correct data and the
> > > issue is how to mitigate potential loss of a domain and purchase by
> > > someone else (which is far worse).
> > >
> > > I agree putting on hold is not without consequences and there should
> > > be a minimum of three attempts to contact the registrant.
> > >
> > > DPF
> > > --
> > > E-mail: david@farrar.com
> > > ICQ: 29964527
> > > MSN: dpf666@hotmail.com
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