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[ga] Re: Feedback on iesg-charter-01 comments and iesg-procedures-00
Michael and all,
Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
> This is a very Good Thing. Wish I'd had it to read when I was trying to
> sort out institutional relationships. This will be especially useful to
> those like me whose participation is entirely online and thus can't pick
> this stuff up by osmosis at meetings.
>
> 2 small things:
>
> RE: "This memo gives a charter for the Internet Engineering Steering Group
> (IESG), a management function of the Internet Engineering Task Force
> (IETF)."
Interesting. Just not but a month ago I believe it was Harald that
stated there was not connection between the IESG and the IETF...
Of course Harald was being deceitful in that post, which I have
archives somewhere... So I got a bit of a laugh out of this
comment here Michael... >;)
>
>
> Possible substitutes for "management function"
>
> agent
> agency
> dependency
> parasite :>
>
> or, perhaps better yet,
>
> ....the IESG, a committee of experienced IETF members whom the ITEF at
> large relies on to manage the standards process.
This is a little bothersome of concerning. Seems to be that Working
groups in particular areas of standards tracking is managed by the
WG members and/or chair...
>
>
> On another issue, I too am confused about the reference to IANA. Who'se
> doing what to whom? There isn't an IANA rep listed at
> http://www.iesg.org/iesg.html#members or at
> http://www.iesg.org/ietf/1ietf-liaisons.txt.
Well a direct connection is seemingly now wanted to be documented.
This is fairly common for both the IANA and the IETF in particular...
It's a sort of "Club" thing... >;) But indeed interesting that you took
particular notice, Michael... >;)
> As IANA is now ICANN's black
> box, its least transparent aspect, my antennae are quivering. Perhaps a
> URL for the new version will sort me out...
ROLFMAO! Yeah perhaps! >;)
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
> > >
> > > IESG as a function is correct, although the term
> > > management entity is more intuitive to me. I guess one
> > > could say that the IESG really is a function, however:
> > > RFC_t r = IESG_Evaluate(ID_t i);
> >
> > it's got more functions than that :-)
> > "entity" is one of those words I really detest, because it's one of the
> > words that people seem to be able to twist into any meaning they want. I
> > chose "function" to emphasize that the IESG only exists because of the
> > IETF; it has no independent existence. Are there other opinions/guidelines
> > on what word to use?
> >
> > >
>
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