RE: [ga] Domains with no Name Servers listed

["Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>]

> In the Verisign RRP is it not a requirement to have a minimum 
> of 1 name
> server but no more then 13. This is how I read it. But yet I 
> find domains
> with no name servers listed. So my question is how do 
> registrars do this? Do
> they some how get around the business logic of the Verisign 
> GRS? Would that
> mean they have another way into the system other then the RRP 
> logic? I am
> very curious how come egret.com has no name servers listed 
> and there is no
> history of this domain ever being in the .COM zonefile?
> 
> Anyone know how this works?

There is no RRP requirement to specify at least 1 name server when a domain
is first registered.  Section 4.3.1.1 of RFC 2832 says this:

"The request to register a domain name MAY contain 1 or more, and a maximum
of 13, fully qualified name servers hosting the domain name in multiple
instances of the "NameServer" parameter."

Note that is says "MAY contain", not "MUST contain".  There's also nothing
in the specification that requires delegation at any point in the future.
We put this flexibility in primarily because it got us past a "chicken and
egg" problem where we require creation of a domain before you can create and
use a name server in the domain.  This means that you have to register
domain example.com before you can register name server ns.example.com.  You
can, of course, initially delegate the domain to name servers in another
domain, but we didn't want to require that because it tends to increase
instances of lame delegation.

Scott Hollenbeck
VeriSign Directory Services
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