Re: [ga] On the ALAC's Request for Comments

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Elliot and all former DNSO GA members,

  INEGroup is not interested in the present form of the ALAC.  We
are on record in that position.  We are on record as recognizing that
the ALAC is devoid of openness, and transparency, has thus far
to make available it's full archives of it's so called ML, is basically
a creature of Ester Dyson and Denise Michel, and is as Danny
rightly points out not representative in any legitimate way of
stakeholders/users....  Basically it is a "Club" not an organization..

elliot noss wrote:

> .....and all that just to keep the INEG Group from qualifying.
>
> On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 08:24 PM, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> > This moronic plan surely must have been conceived by the feeble-minded
> > idiots
> > and stooges that participated as members of the At-Large Assistance
> > Group --
> > it has all the hallmarks of a document hand-written by ICANN staff and
> > rubber-stamped by the ICANN Board's hand-picked puppets (who
> > apparently are
> > too ignorant or too naive to understand that they are only being used
> > as a
> > conveniently pliable tool to promote the fiction that ICANN is in
> > compliance
> > with task number nine under the Memorandum of Understanding with the
> > U.S.
> > Department of Commerce).
> >
> > Having witnessed the complete and total elimination of all public
> > representation on the ICANN Board these fools on the At-Large Advisory
> > Committee now expect the Internet community to rally around a top-down
> > effort
> > designed to asininely further complicate communication between
> > individual
> > users and members of the ICANN Board.
> >
> > In the past, any individual user could write a letter to ICANN and feel
> > confident that they would be ignored (as it has become rather apparent
> > that
> > ICANN only bothers to pay attention to those special-interest groups
> > it deems
> > to be "stakeholders" in its Cartel).  Now one has to do all of the
> > following
> > in order to achieve the same outcome:
> >
> > 1.  First one must find a noncommercial entity to join.
> > 2.  Next, one needs to convince the members of this non-profit group
> > that
> > they must post on their website information that pertains to ICANN
> > activities/issues, and further convince them to offer Internet-based
> > discussion mechanisms so that such activities/issues may be evaluated.
> > 3.  Then it next becomes necessary to convince this noncommercial
> > group that
> > they must provide information on the group's general funding sources
> > to the
> > ALAC (so that this Committee of pseudo-accountants/analysts can
> > ostensibly
> > come to a determination as to whether the non-profit has commitments or
> > obligations that would conflict with its ability to involve and
> > represent
> > individual constituents' interests).
> > 4.  At this point, one must now confirm that somewhere on the
> > non-profit
> > group's website is an articulation of its non-commercial goals and
> > structure,
> > a description of constituent group(s), its working mechanisms,
> > leadership,
> > and contact(s) -- unlike the ALAC which has no posted working
> > mechanisms, an
> > incomplete structure, no contact data on its discussion list (the
> > e-mail
> > addresses of all the "representatives" are replaced with XXXXX), no
> > working
> > public forum and no publicly archived public comments.
> > 5.  Then, the non-profit must be convinced to submit in electronic
> > form a
> > completed application and to provide the ALAC any further requested
> > documentation (which may include references, documents to verify
> > general
> > funding sources, documents on the organization's leadership and
> > operations,
> > and documents that demonstrate the identity of all their individual
> > constituents -- has anyone on this Committee ever heard of the concept
> > of
> > privacy?).  The non-profit must also be convinced that it must
> > necessarily
> > subject itself to the prospect of further possible interviews
> > regarding the
> > organization's contact(s) and must potentially provide other as yet
> > unspecified information about the organization.
> > 6.  If the ALAC then decides to designate this organization as an
> > eligible
> > "structure", the user that wishes to communicate with the ICANN Board
> > must
> > next find at least three other such structures (that must be located
> > in at
> > least two countries) and must persuade these structures to form a
> > regional
> > organization.
> > 7.  In order to form this regional body, the user must then convince
> > these
> > other organizations to spend months and months developing a set of
> > bylaws
> > that all organizations can agree upon, and then the user must further
> > convince each non-profit organization to share in the financial burden
> > of
> > establishing this new umbrella organization -- that means dedicating
> > financial resources for the purpose of incorporation, and setting
> > aside funds
> > to provide for an organizational website, Secretariat services, and
> > such.
> > 8.  The user must also convince each such non-profit organization that
> > it's
> > limited funds should be applied to this glorious experiment instead of
> > remitting such limited funds as the membership fee for direct
> > participation
> > in ICANN's Non-Commercial constituency (which at least gets to
> > participate in
> > the election of an ICANN director).
> > 9.  If the regional organization is finally created, then the user
> > must await
> > the formulation of a formal Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN
> > which
> > consecrates this effort...  (for some reason, this Committee of the
> > Mentally-Challenged seems to think that the At-Large is so gullible
> > that it
> > will willingly enter into a contract with ICANN in the full knowledge
> > that
> > ICANN has broken all of its prior promises, ignored the consensus
> > conclusions
> > of its own Blue Ribbon Panel (the ALSC) and has gleefully wiped out
> > all user
> > representation on its Board).
> > 10.  Finally, if this last stage is achieved, the user can then send
> > his
> > comments to the two members of the ALAC that his regional organization
> > has
> > elected.  Those two members will then transmit his message to the full
> > committee that will next proceed to filter, mangle, distort, and
> > re-write his
> > comments (after sincerely thanking him for his input).  The ALAC will
> > then
> > transmit a non-binding "recommendation" to the Board that in turn will
> > thank
> > the committee for its efforts before proceeding to ignore the comments
> > received.
> >
> > As a user, I don't need this degree of structural bullshit just to
> > communicate my sentiments directly to ICANN.  The problem is not the
> > lack of
> > a structured vehicle to serve as a communications conduit... the
> > problem has
> > always been that the Board has been comprised of members that can't be
> > bothered to listen to the voice of the public that they purportedly
> > serve.
> >
> > This ALAC plan sucks.  Unfortunately, the spineless worms on the
> > Committee
> > will never advocate for substantive change.  Instead, they will meekly
> > accept
> > the bylaws as written and will continue to pretend to "represent" the
> > At-Large.  All hail the Company Union.
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Regards,

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